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New dyno run - Kleemann Headers - nice bump!

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 09:23 PM
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New dyno run - Kleemann Headers - nice bump!


up 34RWHP and 32ft-lbs from my prior dyno

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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Nice, how does the old butt dyno feel after the headers?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 10:33 PM
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Nice gains, you can probably feel 35whp worth of change
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:01 AM
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Nice gains, should have my bosh 010 pump, and my FTP H/E in the next couple of days, then im getting E/C supercharger pulley and ecu tune, with these 4 mods will i feel the diff from stock? or will it be faster but feel the same?
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Nice, how does the old butt dyno feel after the headers?
honestly at first (a few months back) it lost the bottom end, but with this retune, dang it's a monster!!!
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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Nice gains, should have my bosh 010 pump, and my FTP H/E in the next couple of days, then im getting E/C supercharger pulley and ecu tune, with these 4 mods will i feel the diff from stock? or will it be faster but feel the same?
those were my first mods - definitely feel a difference!
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 02:01 AM
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those were my first mods - definitely feel a difference!
I can tell you that you will definitely feel it !
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by 55kAMG
Nice gains, should have my bosh 010 pump, and my FTP H/E in the next couple of days, then im getting E/C supercharger pulley and ecu tune, with these 4 mods will i feel the diff from stock? or will it be faster but feel the same?
Definite change in how it feels
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 05:36 AM
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is the AFR roughly 13? Am I reading that right?
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 05:41 AM
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Anyone have a comparison between the short-tube headers and long ones?
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 06:45 AM
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I know with my mbh no loss down low 38hp gain at 3200rpms make sure you have enough fuel down low.
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4hp extra = 2k extra... Hmmm

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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:16 AM
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Wow...if true, that's a wake-up call.
Kleemann=lesser quality (mine cracked on other car).
Remove and re-install=$2K+ (real PITA!)
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:18 AM
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and that was 50hp up top point was that car looks like it needs some fuel down there
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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nice gains. i paid $2100 for my mbh headers. Just was a pain in the #(!$ w/customer service and communication.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:36 AM
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Theres enough guys that have go fast parts that could do a great comparison if they wanted to take the time to get organized. Get a few cars with different header combos and swap all the headers out on a single car to see what the performance differences are for a comparo.

3 dyno runs with stockers, 3 with kleeman, 3 with mbh, and whoever else joined the party. thats what I loved about the DSM community. One time a bunch of guys got together and ran a comparo on like 8 different intake manifolds all in the interest of information gathering and sharing with the community.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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Who would be insane enough to swap them out just for a test? They are a LOT more difficult to get to than a DSM car.

For me, there's things that are important, as well as the max HP:

1. How's the entire torque-band effected?
2. Quality. What kind of steel used? Will they last?
3. Fit and finish. I do not have a welder and tube-bender
4. Who's making them? (some good ol' boys with a passion here in the US or some ladies in a factory overseas...yep, I'm old-fashioned and care about our economy).
5. Customer service: yes, if I have a problem or issue, I want to be able to talk to someone TODAY!
6. Delivery. Can I actually expect to get them when promised? (don't wanna hear about "my cat died" or "My sister got impregnated by the neighbor kid..")

And that's all for now.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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I have had my kleemans on for about 6-8 months. They are still in great shape and I have not had a single issues with them. They fit perfect when I installed them. And the difference in power was definitely noticeable even without a tune. After the tune, you could really feel the difference in power. Plus they made my exhaust sound great! To me, they have been a nice modification.
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Originally Posted by MindBend
Kleemann=lesser quality (mine cracked on other car).
Were you running flexpipes?

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I have had my kleemans on for about 6-8 months. They are still in great shape and I have not had a single issues with them. They fit perfect when I installed them. And the difference in power was definitely noticeable even without a tune. After the tune, you could really feel the difference in power. Plus they made my exhaust sound great! To me, they have been a nice modification.
+1 had em on for Almost 2 years and still perfect
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadster
honestly at first (a few months back) it lost the bottom end, but with this retune, dang it's a monster!!!
Where'd you get it tuned? I know a guy off Folsom Blvd that tunes supras but when I asked about E55s he wasn't too keen on tuning mine.
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Originally Posted by MindBend
Who would be insane enough to swap them out just for a test? They are a LOT more difficult to get to than a DSM car.

For me, there's things that are important, as well as the max HP:

1. How's the entire torque-band effected?
2. Quality. What kind of steel used? Will they last?
3. Fit and finish. I do not have a welder and tube-bender
4. Who's making them? (some good ol' boys with a passion here in the US or some ladies in a factory overseas...yep, I'm old-fashioned and care about our economy).
5. Customer service: yes, if I have a problem or issue, I want to be able to talk to someone TODAY!
6. Delivery. Can I actually expect to get them when promised? (don't wanna hear about "my cat died" or "My sister got impregnated by the neighbor kid..")

And that's all for now.
Just saying it would be great to see overlays from the same car on the same dyno on the same day. And I don't think it's close or even bordering insanity to think it could be done.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by MindBend
Who would be insane enough to swap them out just for a test? They are a LOT more difficult to get to than a DSM car.
I'd do it if I still had an E55.

Swapping headers isn't too terribly hard.
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