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New Set of Rollers: 20" Niche Vicenza in Black Candy Chrome

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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 08:03 PM
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New Set of Rollers: 20" Niche Vicenza in Black Candy Chrome

Originally didn't want to do 20's, but I simply couldn't resist that concave:

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Also painted the calipers red with new AMG logos:

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Final setup:

F: 20x10, +35 (after 5mm spacers to clear knuckle) with 235/35R20 Vredestein Ultra Vorti
R: 20x10.5, +27 with 265/30R20 Vredestein Ultra Vorti, decent fender roll/flare

Enjoy, and comments welcome. Thanks for looking!
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 10:07 PM
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That looks fantastic
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 10:22 PM
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Dope !

I'm surprised to see - you not having a front bumper lip.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 10:39 PM
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Is that the factory black chrome finish? I'm thinking of niche lucerne in the black chrome.
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Old Sep 12, 2014 | 11:22 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 01:48 AM
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Concave, FTW. Also, I like the dark red you used on the calipers instead of the brighter red most people go with.
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 04:00 AM
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Very clean estate sir. That back wheel is not flush enough.
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:16 AM
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Holy hell that looks fantastic!!!!!!!!!

Have the same wheels on my cts-v wagon, but damn your car with that stance is just absolutely stunning!
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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I do need new tires...hmm mmm

You around tomorrow? Gotta check it out!
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 10:16 AM
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I love these and the Lucerne.. (in black chrome..) to bad no 19's
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 11:07 AM
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235 on a 10 though? Yikes I would be scared to run that set up
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 11:42 AM
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gorgeous man... 19's would of been perfect though to bad they dont have them on that size
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 02:31 PM
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235 on a 10 though? Yikes I would be scared to run that set up
The 265 on a 10.5 is a bit small as well, but the 235 seems very unsafe.



The wheels look great though!
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 211.070
The 265 on a 10.5 is a bit small as well, but the 235 seems very unsafe.



The wheels look great though!
Only .5" narrow than recommended width range, actually. I was surprised as well when I saw the specs on the tire, but it sounds a lot scarier than it actually looks. Hell my 275/30R19 on the previous 10.5" rear was .5" outside of the recommended range too!
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
I do need new tires...hmm mmm

You around tomorrow? Gotta check it out!
Closed on Sunday, but I'm there every day next week. Come see me homie.
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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Did you pull your front and rear fenders too or just rolled?
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Just a roll/flare on the rear. Nothing on the front.
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Old Sep 13, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BimmerDawg
Closed on Sunday, but I'm there every day next week. Come see me homie.

I shall. Gotta get new fronts so let's chat about some new wheels.
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BimmerDawg
Only .5" narrow than recommended width range, actually. I was surprised as well when I saw the specs on the tire, but it sounds a lot scarier than it actually looks. Hell my 275/30R19 on the previous 10.5" rear was .5" outside of the recommended range too!
I see what your saying . but the 235/35 only have a tread width of 8.1" and your putting it on a 10.0 rim .just put proper size tires and offset. you own a rim shop. or do you not care and run a cheaper set of rims on the car and make it ride like a tank. thats over .5" thats more like 1.9"

I am running 255/30/20 +38mm fronts on a 9.0" rim and a 285/30/20 +38 in the rears with a 10.0 and just as flush as yours i can drop it more but want some suspension dampening . I understand the wheel moves up and down as your driving. and as low as you have it the travel is greatly reduced

to stick the rears out 10mm more to fit a smaller tire is well, I wont say.. or to buy a set of wheels without the right offset is just foolish. as you have said before I guess we(mbworld) don't get it.

I have worked on cars all my life and am a ASE certified mechanic. I get what your trying to do, but fundamentally does not make sense

this is in comfort mode.. sport 1 goes down a little more

New Set of Rollers: 20" Niche Vicenza in Black Candy Chrome-photobucket-3543-1397270328535_zps7f76ec86.jpg

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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 07:50 AM
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I see what your saying . but the 235/35 only have a tread width of 8.1" and your putting it on a 10.0 rim .just put proper size tires and offset. you own a rim shop. or do you not care and run a cheaper set of rims on the car and make it ride like a tank. thats over .5" thats more like 1.9"

I am running 255/30/20 +38mm fronts on a 9.0" rim and a 285/30/20 +38 in the rears with a 10.0 and just as flush as yours i can drop it more but want some suspension dampening . I understand the wheel moves up and down as your driving. and as low as you have it the travel is greatly reduced

to stick the rears out 10mm more to fit a smaller tire is well, I wont say.. or to buy a set of wheels without the right offset is just foolish. as you have said before I guess we(mbworld) don't get it.

I have worked on cars all my life and am a ASE certified mechanic. I get what your trying to do, but fundamentally does not make sense
I was going to write off your response as trolling, but since you're an ASE certified mechanic, I'll write your response off as trolling.

I've been doing this for ten years and run one of the most respected wheel stores in the country, so you're not talking to some kid that decided all of a sudden that stance is cool. And I usually don't argue the stance thing online because it's like arguing politics, but a couple of notes:

1. In the pics, the car is all the way down. I drive it ~1" higher as I have an ELM module.
2. It does not ride like a tank. In fact the rear wheel and tire combination weigh only 1.5# more than my previous 19s.
3. The section width of these Vredesteins are very wide for the size, in fact, the 265/30R20 was wider than my previous 275/30R19 Toyo T1-Sport. Same for the front 235/35R20 vs. 245/35R19.
4. The concave offered on the "standard" width and offset wheels that would have made you happier look terrible for my application, so I pushed the envelope a bit, because I run a wheel shop and can.
5. I've spent silly money on wheels before, having owned a few sets of HRE's, BBS and even CCW. I'm not in the position to spend that much again on a set of wheels and am happy with these.
6. And most importantly: IT'S MY CAR.
7. *EDIT* I'm glad you are happy with your car, and I didn't want to attack yours as you did mine, but personally I think your rear tire looks awful as it's almost 1.5" taller than stock.

So, I certainly do appreciate your condescending concern for my and my family's safety, but go find some other stance kid to give advice to, as I am the last person on this board that needs wheel and tire fitment advice. Thanks.

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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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Who did the fender roll/flare? Might be interested in having a pro do mine in the future.
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Who did the fender roll/flare? Might be interested in having a pro do mine in the future.
We did. We have a real roller and my tech is really good at it. Heats the paint up and takes his time.
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Originally Posted by BimmerDawg
We did. We have a real roller and my tech is really good at it. Heats the paint up and takes his time.


Very good to know! Do you have any close ups of the work? What do you charge for this service?
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Old Sep 14, 2014 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 211.070
Very good to know! Do you have any close ups of the work? What do you charge for this service?
$75/fender.

Here's my wife's old supercharged M3:

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My old E36 sedan:

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And about the only one I have of the wagon that's close enough:

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Very reasonable, and good looking work!
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