KMS11

I agree with Mightar, partially disagree with 1Forcedbenz. To my eye the new E's do look too angularish and cheap. I've noticed the new S classes on the road do not have these panel stamped angular looks. I would like the performance (tuning options) and new gadgetry of the new E's, just not the body. In a few years the E will probably get a more rounded look again.

Hulk

Don't like the E63 lines as much as the 211, but the cls63, oh yes lol

SL55_Forever

Check an SL65, that's called "depreciation"!

KMS11

In thinking some more about this new vs old design debate I'll add a few other preferences. As an auto enthusiast I can indeed imagine another true enthusiast preferring a particular model or year over another "newer" and "better" car from any given manufacturer.

The new S550 coupe looks amazing to me, like they finally got that design right. I prefer this look over any of it's CL predecessors which I never really cared for the looks.
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The Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 > Murcialago > Aventador. The Aventador just looks too damn busy now as if they are just desperately looking for some way to differentiate the basic wedge shape. Obviously there's more to the design than that but I've seen a number of them up close now around Los Angeles and though they sound great the looks are less than pleasing in my opinion.

The Ferrari 355 has always looked gorgeous to me. One of the best rear ends to grace a car. The 458 looks anemic, the F12 Berlinetta looks great and the FF stunning. In essence, I would take a bunch of different year and model Ferrari's over a 458.

justinwrock

Took a look at Manheim for ****s and grins, and it looks like '12 E63's are selling for between $50k and $60k, while '12 CLS63's are between $55k and $70k.

badm

Yeah , this Depreciation of performance cars is heaven and hell if your buying USED heaven . If you buy NEW its hell ,,, 2012 & up TT cars and the V 2 and 3 's is what I'm looking at so I'm keeping CLS55 030 just a little while longer .

1ForcedBenz

There's reasonings in design and wether people hate it or love it I understand is obejective.

But with saying they'll likely go back to more of a rounded look IMO is a losing bet. They've been designing the chassis more then ever in the past decade and going forward for drag coefficients. And these are the designs that's getting better results to meet EPA and raising fuel efficiency. That's why so many modern cars look similarly especially in the past 2 to 3 years by all auto makers.

It would be foolish to believe Mercedes or any auto maker is designing cars for the people's opinions that are buying the cars second, third, or fourth owners. MB sales are and record highs and growth, so I was just giving my thoughts on why someone wouldn't happily jump into a vehicle that's performance and reliability has improved head and shoulders beyond the 211 and very aged 55k. I'm not arguing that the motor and vehicles haven't aged well just that people I feel are influenced massively by I love my car and can't afford a new one anyways so I'll point out every reason I hate it. When facts are outside of the styling which of course is subjective MB sales are at there highest and the w212 Eclass has helped make up a huge part of that reason.

KMS11

I'm not arguing that MB is designing any of their cars for the 2nd, 3rd of 4th hand market. In following automobile design, almost every manufacturer oscillates every few years from angular to rounded and back. They'll find the great drag coefficients no matter the styling. Were I to be in the market for a new MB right now, I would avoid the W212 E and go for the S which to my eye flows. I don't need a car that big but I'm not going to pay any amount of money to ride around in something that I don't want to look at. Those record sales are also high in no small part to their aggressive sales and financing tactics.

1ForcedBenz

I guess we can agree to disagree. And let the "Silent voices" speak for themselves which are those in the overwhelming majority that own the cars we are discussing and don't come on the forums to debate. There the ones Mercedes is targeting and appealing to again, not the people driving there's few generations old w211 that were designed in the late 90s. But for entertainments sake that's why the forums are here for topics like this.

KMS11

Indeed, the silent hordes driving E350's and Bluetec diesels (great mileage getters). Lets recap here. The W212 E63's values are dropping like they were pushed out the back of a C130 transport. A few member enthusiasts are salivating at the prospect of picking one up on the cheap and a few like myself casually mentioned they don't like the exterior styling. Your panties got bunched up because you "can't imagine" why anyone would not like the new styling, after all, the cars are selling like hot cakes. Then you go on to take another shot at the old W211 which were designed in the late 90's. I guess under that logic owners of new W212 should be upset their cars were designed in the latter part of the the last decade? Dude. Go away.

1ForcedBenz

It's quite okay for you not to understand what's been happening around you and with the Mercedes brand. Perhaps you have the fear of change.

My reasons are clearly stated there Mr. Sensitive. I dont have my panties bunched up bud. I currently own and have owned 2 other 211 E55s prior since 2003.

I love the car that's not my argument, it was based on why wouldn't someone want a quicker, faster, more reliable, and better handling E amg if all things were equal and price wasn't the issue?

KMS11

And it has been plainly stated to you that all things being equal and price no issue some people just don't like the styling and this is a point you utterly and willfully fail to understand. In my case, I would spend MORE money to go with the styling of the new S class until such time as the E's come out with a styling I like to look at. Perhaps equal money as it turns out for a non AMG S class vs AMG E class. I'll give Mercedes this little nugget though. I do like the nose of the new E but my interest in the styling vanishes at about the hub of the front wheels.

Quite a few years back I put my 1992 E500 AMG up for sale. The first interested party was a gentleman who at the time was the head of VFX for a large company that was then working on The Lord of the Rings films down in New Zealand. He returned to the States and needed a car. Apparently, he had gone to Southbay Mercedes Benz and looked at and driven the then new 2001 E55 AMG's. He didn't like the styling and he did not like the ride. I had never driven them so had no personal opinion on the matter but whatever the case, he was referred to me by the sales dept at Southbay because they did not have any 500E's, they knew mine was clean and he bought my car warranty and all. As it turns out, I later found out that we had a few acquaintances in common and he invited me to his very large home in Palos Verdes, CA. It was clear he could afford just about any car he wanted new or used and he bought the car that looked great to him and felt right regardless of what the Mercedes brand was doing at the time.

Clearly you have difficulty comprehending English and an even more difficult time expressing yourself coherently. Bud. You are also what marketers commonly and lovingly refer to as "sheep". They like guys like you that don't think too hard or deeply into personal preferences that suits ones own style and sensibilities. Wave a shiny new object in front of your face, your panties drench and you are off to the races.

To each his own.
YMMV

BagMan

I like the 212 body and most of the interior. Do not like the cheap feeling buttons on the steering wheel or on the doors.

Ambient lighting is nice.

Haven't been in an AMG 212 yet, but I imagine the quality of the leather is good.

I love the AMG leather in the e55. Much better than the e500 leather and infinitely better than MB-tex that's in my e320

veryswag

Not an S though! ..but thats not a bad deal...for now. 2010-2012 models will drop in value fast once the 2016 models roll out

justinwrock

2010-2011s are non-turbo.

berti_00

The 2014s fell down to 69k-70 and it's one year... In another year or two you can easily have one 50k

veryswag

Yea I don't get why the engine change came before the face lift. Turbo or not I don't care much for the 2010-2013. Would rather have my 10 yr old e55 ...now the 2014 e63 is a different story. I'll take that car in a heartbeat

JDM_SXE-10

I want my free one with 100K miles on it then.

JDM_SXE-10

I will have to see the third genration CTS-V interior to see how much improvement Cadillac made to it, but the first and second generation look horrible.

CharlyE500

Not because envy or anything about W212, I just don't like the cheap feeling of W212. And yes, there is more chrome in the face lifted W212 and I just can't stand it. Do you even have a E55 or even W211 ??

TheOtherDodge

If you have never seen the new ones in person, just pictures alone does not do it justice. I was not a big fan until I saw one in person at the dealership!

CharlyE500

I saw few... in the Orange county car show, LAX airport... just not feeling it. To be honest, I like much better F10 M5 look than W212. (Just my opinion)

BlownV8

Blasphemy! Bring forth the Ban Hammer!

starbrite

That one started off the end of September @ $64k : http://www.easyautosales.com/used-ca...120102568.html

Talk about a big price drop in just 3 months !!

Then, there's my local MB dealer that thinks the car is made out of "unobtanium" @ $69.9K
:http://www.mbhuntington.com/certifie...098607558f.htm

WHTEVO

Wow. I may buy one sooner than later at them prices! That does suck though on the price drop.