2016 CTS-V dayamnn- How many cars do I need to keep up with?
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2016 CTS-V dayamnn- How many cars do I need to keep up with?
640 HP
6.2L supercharged V8
lol so they are -well on paper -making more HP than new E63 TT
Anyone thinking they'd have this on their wish list?
I'd still be with E63 TT cuz of the AWD lol winter in Canada is no joke
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E63 tt awd likely 640hp at the crank
Caddy will be sweet
When I'm not able to keep up, I'll get a $2500 tune and be at 700hp/840tq
Should be good then lol
Caddy will be sweet
When I'm not able to keep up, I'll get a $2500 tune and be at 700hp/840tq
Should be good then lol
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Yah E63 is about 670 at crank, as it dyno'd same whp as ZR1 with a manual (rated at 640hp).
Now E63 TT with a tune, it's like 750hp crank?
But CTS-V is lighter?
Ideally I'd take both a Z06 and an E550. But if I had to pick one, E63 TT easily.
Now E63 TT with a tune, it's like 750hp crank?
But CTS-V is lighter?
Ideally I'd take both a Z06 and an E550. But if I had to pick one, E63 TT easily.
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I haven't heard much about modding on that new direct injection motor.... 640HP is nice but I wonder how much more is going to be found by tuners?
The current LSA motor in the 2009-2014 CTS-V has ludicrous aftermarket support, and you can get monsterous power gains from them. As much as I'd hate to admit it.... There's just no way an E55 will hang with a modded CTS-V.
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The current LSA motor in the 2009-2014 CTS-V has ludicrous aftermarket support, and you can get monsterous power gains from them. As much as I'd hate to admit it.... There's just no way an E55 will hang with a modded CTS-V.
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$85,000 base MSRP for a Cadallic?
It may prove to be worth it. I like the current one a lot, it is a beast with a good interior and great aftermarket support at a bargain price. But fit and finish of the interior needs to step up to compete with the E63 and new S6.
Plus rwd (even with PTM) will have it chasing the Germans to 100mph.
The game changer may very well be the tuners, if they can get an extra 100whp/tq with just a reflash then that will be a different story.
Does anyone know what boost the new CTS-V is running stock?
The Charger Hellcat is $65k and runs 700hp on 11.6 psi. stock. From what I have read about its design, it should handle 5 more psi no problem.....but then we're back to traction
Be interesting to see AMG's responce to this horsepower war with the E63 in 2017.
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It may prove to be worth it. I like the current one a lot, it is a beast with a good interior and great aftermarket support at a bargain price. But fit and finish of the interior needs to step up to compete with the E63 and new S6.
Plus rwd (even with PTM) will have it chasing the Germans to 100mph.
The game changer may very well be the tuners, if they can get an extra 100whp/tq with just a reflash then that will be a different story.
Does anyone know what boost the new CTS-V is running stock?
The Charger Hellcat is $65k and runs 700hp on 11.6 psi. stock. From what I have read about its design, it should handle 5 more psi no problem.....but then we're back to traction
Be interesting to see AMG's responce to this horsepower war with the E63 in 2017.
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The Most Powerful Cadillac Ever: The 2016 CTS-V - YouTube
640 HP
6.2L supercharged V8
lol so they are -well on paper -making more HP than new E63 TT
Anyone thinking they'd have this on their wish list?
I'd still be with E63 TT cuz of the AWD lol winter in Canada is no joke
640 HP
6.2L supercharged V8
lol so they are -well on paper -making more HP than new E63 TT
Anyone thinking they'd have this on their wish list?
I'd still be with E63 TT cuz of the AWD lol winter in Canada is no joke
Can't wait to see what comes in the future from MB?? 700+ HP CLS/SL/E class AMG's w/AWD & DCT would TOP my wish list
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The DI engines just have a different path to more power. The cam runs a certain-shaped gear which pumps the highe-pressure injectors up. You change that shape and then you get more fuel pressure. Flow I am not so sure about.
Because of the DI nature, detonation is a lesser issue until much later, though other things take its place like really bad coking and buildup.
Many of the DI vettes are moving to ethanol.
Because of the DI nature, detonation is a lesser issue until much later, though other things take its place like really bad coking and buildup.
Many of the DI vettes are moving to ethanol.
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DI is also quite effective when paired with forced induction, as DI cools the charge air and cylinder better.
I think Mercedes said the 5.5 bi-turbo will not be continued, and instead they're going to use the new fully build 4.0 turbo motor? Unless Mercedes is willing to really crank up the boost on that engine, I'll be quite saddened if the next E63 is down on power
I think Mercedes said the 5.5 bi-turbo will not be continued, and instead they're going to use the new fully build 4.0 turbo motor? Unless Mercedes is willing to really crank up the boost on that engine, I'll be quite saddened if the next E63 is down on power
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I don't even race my car or ever tracked it (nothing available in 100 mile radius).
I think people with money and no certain brand bias or loyalty - will end up just going with something with reliability.
My E55 has been reliable *knock on the wood* but always has me worried regarding airmatic/SBC - since fuel tank/pumps are covered now
lol. Anyone hear stories of engine/transmission blowing up on stock V's ? ?
I think people with money and no certain brand bias or loyalty - will end up just going with something with reliability.
My E55 has been reliable *knock on the wood* but always has me worried regarding airmatic/SBC - since fuel tank/pumps are covered now
lol. Anyone hear stories of engine/transmission blowing up on stock V's ? ?
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I don't even race my car or ever tracked it (nothing available in 100 mile radius).
I think people with money and no certain brand bias or loyalty - will end up just going with something with reliability.
My E55 has been reliable *knock on the wood* but always has me worried regarding airmatic/SBC - since fuel tank/pumps are covered now
lol. Anyone hear stories of engine/transmission blowing up on stock V's ? ?
I think people with money and no certain brand bias or loyalty - will end up just going with something with reliability.
My E55 has been reliable *knock on the wood* but always has me worried regarding airmatic/SBC - since fuel tank/pumps are covered now
lol. Anyone hear stories of engine/transmission blowing up on stock V's ? ?
With the well-documented coilover conversion kits available now.... AirMatic failures really aren't something worth worrying about any more. You can do a pre-emptive swap if it worries you, or just let fate decide when the swap happens.
SBC failures are becoming a "new" concern on the aging E55 population (>10 years old) but just as the aftermarket has addressed the AirMatic weakness with a solid fix, perhaps it's just a matter of time before SBC gets its own" workaround" or low-cost DIY solution?
-G
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With the well-documented coilover conversion kits available now.... AirMatic failures really aren't something worth worrying about any more. You can do a pre-emptive swap if it worries you, or just let fate decide when the swap happens.
SBC failures are becoming a "new" concern on the aging E55 population (>10 years old) but just as the aftermarket has addressed the AirMatic weakness with a solid fix, perhaps it's just a matter of time before SBC gets its own" workaround" or low-cost DIY solution?
-G
SBC failures are becoming a "new" concern on the aging E55 population (>10 years old) but just as the aftermarket has addressed the AirMatic weakness with a solid fix, perhaps it's just a matter of time before SBC gets its own" workaround" or low-cost DIY solution?
-G
I really want either Range Rover V8 Supercharged or G63 AMG lol - or E63 AWD TT .
Let's see what happens but I'd be really happy with any of the above. The more reviews I read
the more I come to understanding that RR is way more comfortable than G63 tho
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If you're selling anyway... it doesn't matter.
My point was only that in the early days, when the AirMatic system failed you had no choice but to replace the airbag with another identical part from MBZ.
Then Arnott came onto the scene with their improved airbags and took away the original concerns about longevity.... Then someone figured out the parts list to do a complete coilover swap and it was pretty much "game over" as far as worries over AirMatic.
There used to be unlimted downside as far as ongoing costs were concerned... but now for the price of a couple of Arnott replacement bags (or a $1500 coilover kit), you've got the issue resolved permanently.... that's all I was trying to convey.
Getting into a Range Rover, eh? You'll be reminiscing about how LOW your repair bills used to be on the E55.....
-G
My point was only that in the early days, when the AirMatic system failed you had no choice but to replace the airbag with another identical part from MBZ.
Then Arnott came onto the scene with their improved airbags and took away the original concerns about longevity.... Then someone figured out the parts list to do a complete coilover swap and it was pretty much "game over" as far as worries over AirMatic.
There used to be unlimted downside as far as ongoing costs were concerned... but now for the price of a couple of Arnott replacement bags (or a $1500 coilover kit), you've got the issue resolved permanently.... that's all I was trying to convey.
Getting into a Range Rover, eh? You'll be reminiscing about how LOW your repair bills used to be on the E55.....
-G
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With the well-documented coilover conversion kits available now.... AirMatic failures really aren't something worth worrying about any more. You can do a pre-emptive swap if it worries you, or just let fate decide when the swap happens.
SBC failures are becoming a "new" concern on the aging E55 population (>10 years old) but just as the aftermarket has addressed the AirMatic weakness with a solid fix, perhaps it's just a matter of time before SBC gets its own" workaround" or low-cost DIY solution?
-G
SBC failures are becoming a "new" concern on the aging E55 population (>10 years old) but just as the aftermarket has addressed the AirMatic weakness with a solid fix, perhaps it's just a matter of time before SBC gets its own" workaround" or low-cost DIY solution?
-G
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The Most Powerful Cadillac Ever: The 2016 CTS-V - YouTube
640 HP
6.2L supercharged V8
lol so they are -well on paper -making more HP than new E63 TT
Anyone thinking they'd have this on their wish list?
I'd still be with E63 TT cuz of the AWD lol winter in Canada is no joke
640 HP
6.2L supercharged V8
lol so they are -well on paper -making more HP than new E63 TT
Anyone thinking they'd have this on their wish list?
I'd still be with E63 TT cuz of the AWD lol winter in Canada is no joke
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If you're selling anyway... it doesn't matter.
My point was only that in the early days, when the AirMatic system failed you had no choice but to replace the airbag with another identical part from MBZ.
Then Arnott came onto the scene with their improved airbags and took away the original concerns about longevity.... Then someone figured out the parts list to do a complete coilover swap and it was pretty much "game over" as far as worries over AirMatic.
There used to be unlimted downside as far as ongoing costs were concerned... but now for the price of a couple of Arnott replacement bags (or a $1500 coilover kit), you've got the issue resolved permanently.... that's all I was trying to convey.
Getting into a Range Rover, eh? You'll be reminiscing about how LOW your repair bills used to be on the E55.....
-G
My point was only that in the early days, when the AirMatic system failed you had no choice but to replace the airbag with another identical part from MBZ.
Then Arnott came onto the scene with their improved airbags and took away the original concerns about longevity.... Then someone figured out the parts list to do a complete coilover swap and it was pretty much "game over" as far as worries over AirMatic.
There used to be unlimted downside as far as ongoing costs were concerned... but now for the price of a couple of Arnott replacement bags (or a $1500 coilover kit), you've got the issue resolved permanently.... that's all I was trying to convey.
Getting into a Range Rover, eh? You'll be reminiscing about how LOW your repair bills used to be on the E55.....
-G
But the latest Gen- is built on entirely new chassis and I believe they have improved significantly. -
Lol-saw top gear review on new gen range rover. They seemed pretty impressed with it lol
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I have heard that a lot about -Range Rovers- my mechanic was telling me that one of his customers brought the car in cuz on a rainy day- sunroof started leaking.
But the latest Gen- is built on entirely new chassis and I believe they have improved significantly. -
Lol-saw top gear review on new gen range rover. They seemed pretty impressed with it lol
But the latest Gen- is built on entirely new chassis and I believe they have improved significantly. -
Lol-saw top gear review on new gen range rover. They seemed pretty impressed with it lol
I'm going to upgrade to the 2011-12 Spercharged RR in the next 6-8 wks... It makes 510 hp stock vs my 07 w/390 hp.. w/ecu & pulley it hits 630 hp, they added bigger 5 liter in 2010 which accounts for hp increase. Couple this hp to the stout short gearing & these rigs really move well.. The new 2014 has dropped 500+lbs & rips 0-60 in 4.3 seconds..
