W211 AMG Discuss the W211 AMG's such as the E55 and the E63

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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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well im getting some kleeman headers this monday .anyone running same set up as I would be running ??what your experience with kleeman headers is it a new beast ?thanks
also whats the gains on rwhp and tq
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 04:55 PM
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yes just did one on a car with buckhead remote tune on a safe tune we made 488hp i forget the torque and that was on the dyno dynamics. i posted the info a while ago.
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 08:06 PM
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Results in my sig raced plenty to verify correct keep in mind I have trunk tank which plays big part in my power consistency. Had mine on for about 3 years no problems. Should hav been your first mod !
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Old Feb 1, 2015 | 11:24 PM
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OP, don't forget the supporting mods at minimum such as a heat exchanger & IC pump combo.

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I have 481/519 with that setup
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 01:03 AM
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Thanks guys im also getting my febtec heatexchanger so I can install the same day ill do some dyno runs and post them when Im finish
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 01:04 AM
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I have 481/519 with that setup
Is this 481rwh ??oor crank ?
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by E55amgsd
Is this 481rwh ??oor crank ?
whp
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Old Feb 4, 2015 | 11:19 AM
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Is this 481rwh ??oor crank ?
Yup RWHP ~600 at the crank
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Old Feb 5, 2015 | 09:55 PM
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Yup RWHP ~600 at the crank
Woow ..what other mods so you have ??
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Originally Posted by Toadster
Yup RWHP ~600 at the crank
Hi, doesnt this also depends on the dyno type?
So i heard these cars make stock around ~394HP at the wheels at a certain dyno type. Lets call it "Type1". When you hit 481WHP at that Dyno "type 1", i would also say its 600HP at the crank.
But there is also the Dyno "Type2", where our cars make already around 435WHP stock, when you then have 481WHP (less then 50WHP gain), i would doubt its 600 crank HP.

I read some people say with a 180mm crank equivalent pulley, 82mmTB, Headers, cat-less, colder plugs, fuel-rail + bigger 6hole injectors, ECU/TCU tune, and cooling upgrades, these cars make ~550WHP.
So when this rating is on the Dyno "Type1", i would say its around 675-700 crank HP, right?
But when its on the higher reading Dyno "Type2", how much would it be.
And did anyone make this power on a Dyno "Type1" ?
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Hi, doesnt this also depends on the dyno type?
So i heard these cars make stock around ~394HP at the wheels at a certain dyno type. Lets call it "Type1". When you hit 481WHP at that Dyno "type 1", i would also say its 600HP at the crank.
But there is also the Dyno "Type2", where our cars make already around 435WHP stock, when you then have 481WHP (less then 50WHP gain), i would doubt its 600 crank HP.

I read some people say with a 180mm crank equivalent pulley, 82mmTB, Headers, cat-less, colder plugs, fuel-rail + bigger 6hole injectors, ECU/TCU tune, and cooling upgrades, these cars make ~550WHP.
So when this rating is on the Dyno "Type1", i would say its around 675-700 crank HP, right?
But when its on the higher reading Dyno "Type2", how much would it be.
And did anyone make this power on a Dyno "Type1" ?
All Dyos are different. I have not seen too many stock cars pull 435. Most I see are in the teens as an average. They will range anywhere from the 360 to 420 stock. If you add up the mods for crank hp pulley tune 65-70 headers 45 it's close. Rwhp pulley tune 4o headers 33 and you get 73 at the wheels

It different car to car

The 180mm pulley it's self is a monster. They can approach 500 rwhp with pulley tune and cooling. It's alittle harsher to drive

Toadster's setup is a nice combo that work well together for the street. It also is very cost effective.
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OP, don't forget the supporting mods at minimum such as a heat exchanger & IC pump combo.

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I think this is the reason my car sucks sometimes I get beat by stock e55 :/????aand I have a 84mm sc pulley and a tune frome eurocharged I do have a 0010 bosh pump but not an upgraded heatexchanger
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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I think this is the reason my car sucks sometimes I get beat by stock e55 :/????aand I have a 84mm sc pulley and a tune frome eurocharged I do have a 0010 bosh pump but not an upgraded heatexchanger
bigger HE is ~2x the volume of the stock one, highly recommended
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by E55amgsd
I think this is the reason my car sucks sometimes I get beat by stock e55 :/????aand I have a 84mm sc pulley and a tune frome eurocharged I do have a 0010 bosh pump but not an upgraded heatexchanger
Perhaps a non grippy tire, I'd look there. You're in SD so don't think below temps are an issue like North Pole over here. After you address your HE

The most stingy & power robbing parasite is the heat soak. What the cars makes now and about 2 or 3 back to back runs (street or Dyno) will hurt owner egos. Ask me how I know lol
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Old Feb 18, 2015 | 10:42 PM
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Hard compound vs soft. Suggesting the need of something that bites the blacktop
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I love my Conti extream contacts. A summer tire but bite good on cold dry roads. I'm impressed . Mine are not the S tire. Better than other drag radials I have ran in my past ls life.
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Non-grippy tire?
Yeah I have the nitto nt555 zr extreme they are pretty good when I heat them up
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Perhaps a non grippy tire, I'd look there. You're in SD so don't think below temps are an issue like North Pole over here. After you address your HE

The most stingy & power robbing parasite is the heat soak. What the cars makes now and about 2 or 3 back to back runs (street or Dyno) will hurt owner egos. Ask me how I know lol
I have good wheels nt555 so I need that HE lol
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bigger HE is ~2x the volume of the stock one, highly recommended
Thanks man I am placing an order from ftp this friday
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FOR THE GUYS WITH HEADERS DID U TITANIUM WRAP OR DID U GO WITH COATED??OR SIMPLY JUST NORMAL
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Hard compound vs soft. Suggesting the need of something that bites the blacktop
Thanks for the clarification.
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Didn't wrap my headers due to me in a time crunch - right out of box into car for same day install. If you have the opportunity to coat, I would go ahead with that. But lots of users seem to just install short or long headers as is
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