Toadster

my Secondary pump is noisy on startup - not dead but it's noisy...

dealer quoted $1100 to replace

so how hard it it to replace?

found this part


Secondary Air Pump 0001404285 Fits Mercedes R171/W203/W211/W215/W219/W220 Porsche Boxster 02-04 for $182 shipped

hard job?

Hulk

Turn it off via star and don't worry about it anymore

WANTED!!

Once you pull the front splash guard, it's easier than changing the supercharger pump.

green1212

i did my pump removal without even raising the vehicle! 30 minutes tops and thats because it takes a little extra time lining those holes up. but also make sure you check that relay. its usually the relay that goes bad or gets sticky and dont disengage so the power is constantly feeding the pump.

Crissus

Thank you for that hint :-)

turbo97se

+1 ... turned mine off anyway even though there was nothing wrong with it.

JoeNobody

+1 turn it off. Car will also idle much smoother on startup.

Rocman8

a lot of people on here live in california or another smog state so disabling isn't an option for us.

turbo97se

Smog pump physically not present may possibly be detected in CA, Smog pump disabled in Star would not be. Just make sure your car is warmed up when you go for the test .. which it should be anyway.

SICAMG

Where would I go in Star to turn it off? Can you give me details for this. Thanks

turbo97se

A Google search yielded this in less than 15 seconds:

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...rough-sds.html

Toad if you want to fix it you can also get yours remanunfactured from Ebay for reasonable price:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-secondary-air-pump-repair-R230-W220-W215-W211-W219-W203-AMG-/261809653275?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cf512461b&vxp=mtr
Personally, I would probably take it apart to see what's wrong with it .. a little lube might be all it needs. I have taken apart Audi blower motor apart before .. and added some Silicone grease ... no more issues

Cashville

You can find a rebuilt one on Ebay usually and there is a thread that has a different part number for an Audi for less than $300. Mine was under the Carmax warranty and I ended up burning up three new pumps.
Apparently there is a update to the ECU that helps with this problem. My indy updated the ECU and I have been trouble free for several months.

Definitely an easy fix though.

Toadster

kompressede

^ This

I have to do a little search to take care it.

m3j0n

are there instructions to "turn it off" via star? Thanks,.

Hulk

The instructions are in this link

https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...rough-sds.html

Very easy

green1212

hope this helps man! I looked on ebay for this same pump but did not see it for the price I got it for but you can continue with the various options from this info: take care man and good luck!


2nd pump/relay
is sounds like maybe your 2nd air injection pump is dead and in short time it keep blowing the fuse due to it still getting hot/heated from malfunction. to test it, the 2nd air pump is below the drivers side headlight area under the car. it will have a wire plug you can disconnect. i dont think your pump is working anyways, when the next time you change the fuse, just disconnect the pump and leave it that way for 4-5 days. your fuse should not be blown. the relay that maybe the cause of burning out your 2nd air pump in the first place is Relay #40 inside the engine bay fuse box. part number for this relay 0025427219. also the part number for the 2nd air injection pump itself is made by bosch, part # 0001404285. when i changed my pump out, i bought one that was advertised for audi on ebay, called "New Smog Air Pump Secondary Air Pump" fits 00-05 audi s4 a6 allroad quattro turbo. look that part up on ebay and it will have the same part number, same exact locations to screw into from your cars bracket, same wire connector also. it only cost $179 free shipping there, you can call mb dealership and find out how much you stand to save by going that route. good luck and hope this helps!

WesttxJR

I just did this replacement and as stated above it's really easy. I sent mine to a guy in NY and he had it back to me in 3 or 4 days, cleaned up and rebuilt. It cost $129, about 30 minutes of install, etc. The relay and fuse should also be replaced (if fuse is blown as it was on mine). For my car the relay is located by the second battery under the cabin filter and the fuse in the floor board area of the passenger seat.

I had to do this as I was 10 months expired on my inspection...and finally busted.

Toadster

I can't believe the dealer quoted me at $1,100 for this !!!

WesttxJR

This is the guy i used. just pulled this off of ebay today:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Ben...12461b&vxp=mtr

He did a great job and it has worked great for the last three or so months.

turbo97se

Read post #11 .. already posted this and also how to turn off pump with star in that same post ..

Toad .. nothing the dealer quotes surprises me anymore. That's why I quit going to the dealer all together .. even when I had warranty, the warranty would not cover dealer labor rates in the bay area. It's nuts. No more warranties or dealers for me! That's why I love these forums ... save time and money.

Toadster

ordered this part from ebay - didn't read the notes, but you ship your dead part to him and he ships back - he was nice enough to send me a rebuilt unit

he mentioned replacing the relay - although mine turns on/off as expected - it's just noisy... what relay do I need? and should I replace it?

Toadster

bump!

JoeNobody

Disable through Star, forget about ever fixing SAI, and have a smoother idle on startup.

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green1212

joenobody makes a lot of sense man but to answer your question: the relay is #40 inside the engine bay on the drivers side. mercedes charges about $20-30 for this relay but one can be had for cheaper on ebay. the actual part number is on the relay itself and when you look it up, it should point you to an upgraded part number. but if this pump blows, really consider disabling it via star. take care man!