LogicLabTuning

This is a PSA to the forums and to anyone that has received messages from Jake, Loungn14, about me or My Company Logic Lab Tuning.

To the uninformed, Jake sends PMs out of the blue instantly to anyone who asks about Logic Lab Tuning. He tells them that he had to fix their ECU, or that I steal files, or a multitude of ALL KINDS OF LIES. He has been doing this for months now whenever a customer asks about my product, to take them to buy his product.

What kind of person does that? Obviously there is no reasoning with you, so unfortunately making this post is the only way for me to address the lies you tell my potential customers.

If you get an email from Jake bad mouthing me or my company please let me know. I will have this resolved.

s_ager

If this is true, not saying it is not....

Very sad that one business have to bad mouth another business to ensure sales.

FLE55AMG

Show some screen shots? You are already out here call them out show some proof.

SL55_Forever

Agreed... Where's your proof??

LogicLabTuning

Email conversations and private message conversations can not be posted due to forum terms of use rules.

But I am 100% sure that he will confirm and try to explain himself out of it.

s_ager

If you cannot post PM's fair....

then have these people who has gotten these PM's step forward... let's get it all out in the open

Hamrdwn

Alright then...here I am. Didn't want to cause any trouble between companies, but it's only fair that I say this is a true statement that logic is in fact right! Loungn14 did pm me putting logic's product down...I posted on here that I was getting a ecu flash for my e63. I'm not happy that this is what it's ended up being...companies bashing each other...im new on here and trying to be a good forum member!

FLE55AMG

Maybe this is one of these times where it's Better to ask forgiveness then permission. If this was a attack on my business, I would line up my ducks and mount offensive including legal action and injunction with proof, wittiness, and monetary value of the business you have lost. But hey maybe your weakness is why you are getting taken advantage of?

s_ager

Hey

I am new on this forum too... and you stating facts is not being a bad member.... it shows the true colors of people/business. facts are facts

Hammer Down

Have you called or text Jake? That would be my first step before blasting him in a forum. The Only EC mod that I have on my car is a heat exchanger so please don't get my statement twisted. If he doesn't respond to your text or phone calls then do what I would do. Sack up and go to his shop for a face to face meet. Jake has always been a stand up guy as far a I know so give the man a chance to explain.

Hulk

Agree with hammer here, have you contacted him before making this thread to see if it's true etc?

Hamrdwn

What's there to explain? Why he bashed another company and tried to sway me from buying logic's product! To me this is simply bad biz!

Hammer Down

Would you care to elaborate on Jake after you change your name? Jk

Hamrdwn

Lol!

Hamrdwn

Loungn14 is on here... He can explain himself what went down. Step up!

Hammer Down

I don't see his name at the bottom as viewing this thread so spill the beans jr

Hamrdwn

Read #7....hammer down...this is just a bit of what went down sir.

Hammer Down

Got it, ok Jake you're up

02C32guy

I hate to get involved in this, but can you prove the things he is saying are false? If not, it seems to me that Jake is actually helping forum members.

berti_00

or you can message him directly about the issue that you think is going on and keep it between the two

dubseven

Man in glass house should not throw rocks.

ArmoE55

Subscribed to understand what's going on.

Jake has always been a standup guy for me, personally, (he has dyno tune'd my car and helped in any way that he could) and I've witnessed him take care of many other forum members. They are one of the top names in this business and have built one of the best customer service satisfaction reputations worldwide.

OP - I'm not implying that you're lying or blowing things up more than they need to be, but given my experience and others', I am having a hard time believing Jake said something to members that would be to spite you simply for an extra few sales (granted, money makes people do things, I just need to understand and see all the facts before I draw any radical conclusions on the subject).

Lastly, I'd tread carefully about posting too much on a public forum, especially if legal action is to be taken down the line (if this matter is more serious than what has been posted so far).

sales@eurocharged.com

Alex (owner of LogicLab) has been bad mouthing me and my company to potential customers and even my dealers for years.

I have recovered a few ECU's that were damaged and or caused a no start issue in his customers cars. That's a fact.

I have copies of various media where YOU lied to customers about me and my company dating back a few years now. Another fact.

Ted @ Mpower has told me various things that you have said as well. Yet another fact. This started in December of 2012 when you set him up as a dealer.

I'll be happy to provide more detail.

I have been put through the ringer with you Alex and have kept my mouth shut over the years.

My name loves to fly out of your mouth, Alex.

Feel free to give me a call if you want to discuss this further.

Jerry

SilverStrk

This should NOT be a thread.. There's Always 2 sides to Every story, Period.. Mods please close this thread, and PS I have no horse in this race.....

SL55_Forever

This is why you go with a big names like Brabus or Kleemann, they too big to fail... oh wait, where'd I hear that line from?