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Old May 15, 2015 | 12:27 AM
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Question E55 supercharger + twin turbo!!!
Can we do this thing in E55 as shown in the picture !?and What are the potential risks that may occur in the car
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Crazy Saudis...

Is it possible? Yes...if you're willing to spend the money on it.

The risk is that you will lose a lot of your money and/or your motor could blow if it is not built correctly.

Honestly I think it would work better if the supercharger was just removed...
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Originally Posted by aboabood1977
Can we do this thing in E55 as shown in the picture !?and What are the potential risks that may occur in the car
From what I remember over in the Cobra forums is that it isn't the greatest setup to have a twin screw supercharger with turbos. The reason is the twin screw supercharger compresses the air inside the casing of the supercharger instead of between the rotors and the intercooler like an Eaton would. People would always ask if these Hellion kits for the Cobras would do better if matched with a Whipple (same as a Weistech) or Kenne Bell twin screw similar to what we have on the E55.
I don't recall the exact reason why it doesn't work well and I don't know if they had any luck with that setup in the picture.
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Old May 15, 2015 | 02:46 AM
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Crazy Saudis...

Is it possible? Yes...if you're willing to spend the money on it.

The risk is that you will lose a lot of your money and/or your motor could blow if it is not built correctly.

Honestly I think it would work better if the supercharger was just removed...
I'm not Saudis I am from United Arab Emirates ,, I agree with you in the event of super removal would be a good situation even with the turbos only .
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you if you were offended. I was just looking at the writing in the picture. I'm guessing you know of someone there in the UAE with this setup?
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From what I remember over in the Cobra forums is that it isn't the greatest setup to have a twin screw supercharger with turbos. The reason is the twin screw supercharger compresses the air inside the casing of the supercharger instead of between the rotors and the intercooler like an Eaton would. People would always ask if these Hellion kits for the Cobras would do better if matched with a Whipple (same as a Weistech) or Kenne Bell twin screw similar to what we have on the E55.
I don't recall the exact reason why it doesn't work well and I don't know if they had any luck with that setup in the picture.
I think that in this matter, both in the Mercedes or the other cars will be the difference in the circuit electrical system and if he got any defect would be in this thing either of mechanical works area there is no problem with it.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you if you were offended. I was just looking at the writing in the picture. I'm guessing you know of someone there in the UAE with this setup?
its fine My friend
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There was someone who tried the turbo and supercharger setup on this forum but from what I recall they could not get it to work properly. You are much better off if you just go to a twIn turbo system.
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There was someone who tried the turbo and supercharger setup on this forum but from what I recall they could not get it to work properly. You are much better off if you just go to a twIn turbo system.
I agree with you certainly👍
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Originally Posted by aboabood1977
I think that in this matter, both in the Mercedes or the other cars will be the difference in the circuit electrical system and if he got any defect would be in this thing either of mechanical works area there is no problem with it.
I have to disagree with you. There is something in the physics of the air in this set up that doesn't work well because of the type of supercharger. Like I said before, if it was an Eaton, it would work fine. Check out Hellion turbo systems and look for their "Hellraiser" kit for the 03-04 Mustang Cobra. They use compound boost but only on the Eaton supercharger.
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Some sight previously had this same setup (I think it was in Mexico?), and there no was no data to backup the setup (no dyno, quarter mile, nothing). Those goofy air to air intercoolers are not going to do much stuck under the hood with little airflow.
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Originally Posted by JoeNobody
Some sight previously had this same setup (I think it was in Mexico?), and there no was no data to backup the setup (no dyno, quarter mile, nothing). Those goofy air to air intercoolers are not going to do much stuck under the hood with little airflow.
I was thinking the same thing. That is probably heating the intake charge even more. Some water to air intercoolers that size would do the trick but it wouldn't fit under the hood.
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There was a compound boosted E55 not too long ago here on this forum. Not twin turbo though, only single.

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Originally Posted by BlownV8
There was someone who tried the turbo and supercharger setup on this forum but from what I recall they could not get it to work properly. You are much better off if you just go to a twIn turbo system.
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There was a compound boosted E55 not too long ago here on this forum. Not twin turbo though, only single.

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There's a twin turbo E55 AMG running low 10s and soon to be 9s, JS
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Originally Posted by RedBullJnky
There's a twin turbo E55 AMG running low 10s and soon to be 9s, JS
lol....
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There's a twin turbo E55 AMG running low 10s and soon to be 9s, JS
I wonder who owns that......
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Is the compounded setup running the turbos into the air box before the maf?
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Is the compounded setup running the turbos into the air box before the maf?
E55 has no maf
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E55 has no maf
Well that solves my new g55 purchase, but my jaguar does have a maf 👎🏻
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