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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 01:46 PM
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I'm of the opinion that the split cooling without adding a large tank will have very minimal effects on IATs. If you go that route, at least run straight water (with corrosion inhibitors) for your use, I think it is actually a waste of time and money. (I do have a BMW reservoir if you're interested though)
I was planning on using mostly distilled water and water wetter with a very small amount of antifreeze. I was hoping to be able to get one good run without pulling timing or the S/C shutting off with this setup.
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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You and I both have the same sort of needs.
from what I gather, in order not to pull timing on top of a long pull, you either need to start at very low temperatures (Ice in a tank, or killer chiller), or have a more efficient way of cooling the charge. (methanol/water injection).

I'm very much leaning towards methanol injection at this point. I plan on spraying wiper fluid right into the supercharger.
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 02:35 PM
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With the larger HE?
Yes with the FTP HE. Mind you ambient was around 90 to 95. With split I will be 100-110 degrees within 90seconds or less IAT where without split I will hover around 115-120 for a few minutes. This was in stop and go, on the freeway, its faster recovery for both
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by uraberg
You and I both have the same sort of needs.
from what I gather, in order not to pull timing on top of a long pull, you either need to start at very low temperatures (Ice in a tank, or killer chiller), or have a more efficient way of cooling the charge. (methanol/water injection).

I'm very much leaning towards methanol injection at this point. I plan on spraying wiper fluid right into the supercharger.
Wow really? All I want to do is take off on someone here and there, nothing crazy. One of the reasons why I decided not to go with a smaller S/C pulley or TB was to not go crazy on the cooling. This is pretty frustrating...
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 04:45 PM
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You don't have to mod anything. Even stock, it's a pretty good car. You'll probably never realize when you get in the first stages of the computer pulling a little timing, because you're well in the triple digits by then. (depends on ambient of course)
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 05:07 PM
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You don't have to mod anything. Even stock, it's a pretty good car. You'll probably never realize when you get in the first stages of the computer pulling a little timing, because you're well in the triple digits by then. (depends on ambient of course)
Ya they are, but a little more power never hurts
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 10:08 PM
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Also, about distilled water and water wetter... I live in Socal and the temps never go below 40 in the winter. Do I really need to add any antifreeze? Can't I just run just distilled water and WW year round?
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 10:18 PM
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Also, about distilled water and water wetter... I live in Socal and the temps never go below 40 in the winter. Do I really need to add any antifreeze? Can't I just run just distilled water and WW year round?
Yes you can. In the whole system, if you're comfortable.
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Old Jun 8, 2015 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by uraberg
Yes you can. In the whole system, if you're comfortable.
Thanks bud. Do you know when it be appropriate to change/flush with that setup? Is it once a year?
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I should probably throttle back a little, and say that:

From a fear of freezing standpoint, you're OK with H2O and WW.

From a fear of boiling standpoint, you're possibly OK as well. (although the SC generates a lot of extra heat, the increased heat capacity of H2O vs 50:50 will probably compensate.)

Now for corrosion resistance and lubrication, you will have to do research before you commit to throwing your coolant out.

And I would flush often if you're going this route. at least twice a year.
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Originally Posted by uraberg
I should probably throttle back a little, and say that:

From a fear of freezing standpoint, you're OK with H2O and WW.

From a fear of boiling standpoint, you're possibly OK as well. (although the SC generates a lot of extra heat, the increased heat capacity of H2O vs 50:50 will probably compensate.)

Now for corrosion resistance and lubrication, you will have to do research before you commit to throwing your coolant out.

And I would flush often if you're going this route. at least twice a year.
In that case I'll keep a small amount of antifreeze in there lol. Thanks for all your help!!!
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