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Old 08-18-2015, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:

Pros:

- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.

Those were the only pros for me.

Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.

Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
Thats some pretty awesome power! i have your number from a pm still and one of these days ill have to call ya and chat some!

I will add that the more power you make with e85 the more serious your fuel system has to be! 10 years of playing with the stuff from 500whp cars to 1500whp car teaches you alot!

I have a mechanical fuel pump on my Ford GT supercar attached to the back of the factory dry sump oil pump to supply fuel to my motor. Twin 160cc per cyl. Inj duty cyl is only 55% so i really need like 100/160cc per hole.
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Originally Posted by dans776
You wouldn't see IAT gains during datalogging because the fuel itself is not any cooler... the latent energy is less so within the combustion chamber (obviously after the IAT sensor), the engine will experience a cooler burn.
I'll correct you a little here^^ You can not see the gains of e85 (ie) the cooling effect of the alcohol in it because its downsteam of the iac temp sensor when its brought into the intake port and the cooling happens when its mixed before it enters combustion chamber. This is the most ridiculous technicality I've heard. Yes, the fuel mixes with the air at the point of injection. Still after the IAT sensor. My point still stands... the fuel isn't any colder, if you are at 80°F ambient then the fuel will be 80°F. The way it burns is different. There are major gains from it tho. Alcohol is a colder fuel than gasoline so you can't really say its not. E85 is Corn alcohol. I have stuff right out of the plant that is drinkable. It's gross cause it taste like Corn

Also e85 does start like sh it when below 50 degrees. That's why winter blend is e70-75... I have cars that start well below 50 degress it's all in the tune. We also run up to 220cc inj with e85 on street cars and they don't surge or do stupid stuff at idle. Again that would be tuning issue with running the inj duty cycle that low. So... if it doesn't happen to EVERY E85 car, I wouldn't say it's a property of the fuel... but a property of the TUNE.[/QUOTE]
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Originally Posted by dans776
I have a mechanical fuel pump on my Ford GT supercar attached to the back of the factory dry sump oil pump to supply fuel to my motor. Twin 160cc per cyl. Inj duty cyl is only 55% so i really need like 100/160cc per hole.
What's the difference between a Ford GT and a Ford GT supercar?
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The thing I love about E85 is you can take a maxed out car, mods wise, and get a substantial amount of extra power while being safer for the engine.
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Lol your old CLS can be valet parked but my car can't? It seems like you have never valet parked a car before so let me explain how it works for you. You pull up and hand the valet person your keys and he/she gives you a ticket. You pay them (don't forget to tip) and they bring your car. There is no inspection process. You can valet park a corolla or a lambo.
your are correct, i have never valeted a car. i pay someone else to do it.


uh, i was referring to the idea of someone valeting a car like your green jelly bean in front of a Del Frisco's or Mortons. there is a sh*t ton of individuals here who have show car looking beasts that don't talk any sh*t like you do about your vehicle. hundreds of pounds lighter and beat to sh*t, you brag with vigor about being .5 faster than heavier sedans in the 1/4 with factory blowers?



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They say if you don't have any haters you haven't accomplished anything
you don't have any? no one hates you? more like pities your misguided douche bag mindset. congrats, you polished a turd. so please stop stating "haters gonna hate" comment. lol


what's the most power (RWHP) out of a factory blower?-img_20150801_095902_zps4qsq6f7x.jpg

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your are correct, i have never valeted a car. i pay someone else to do it.
I mean.. I've never valeted a car OR paid someone else to do it. I think it's a stupid waste of money and I don't want anyone else driving my sh it. I'm able-bodied, I'll park my own da mn car.
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I mean.. I've never valeted a car OR paid someone else to do it. I think it's a stupid waste of money and I don't want anyone else driving my sh it. I'm able-bodied, I'll park my own da mn car.
You are telling me you will walk multiple blocks---to save a few bucks---while on a date with a hottie wearing high heels? I'm going to say, no. She would kick your a**.
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How did a conversation regarding factory blower specifications devolve into this? This place cracks me up.
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You are telling me you will walk multiple blocks---to save a few bucks---while on a date with a hottie wearing high heels? I'm going to say, no. She would kick your a**.
I will drop her off and go park my sh it. It's not the money, it's the principal. I've got 5 cars, no one drives them but me

My lady would probably prefer walking with me in heels, perhaps you picked the wrong woman?

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How did a conversation regarding factory blower specifications devolve into this? This place cracks me up.
Haha, true
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How did this end up about valet parking your car? I wouldn't pay $50 to valet but if its less than $10 sure lol

Stick with the topic fellas
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How did this end up about valet parking your car? I wouldn't pay $50 to valet but if its less than $10 sure lol

Stick with the topic fellas
What topic? It's gone. All gone. All we have is each other.

Once the heads are decked......I'm going to have Tony tune for C16 and 90mm throttle body this time. My goal is to put down 620+ to the wheels for the upcoming mile event.
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i have a friend who's son used to work at a nice restaurant as a valet,, he cracked one of them up (dumb ***) -- its very rare i will valet my own car and i dont consider it to be of any real value (fun as crap but not expensive),, rentals i will valet all the all the time

i started reading this post for HP gains -- this is a crazy place!
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perhaps you picked the wrong woman
You're right, I did. Thank God I have a 90 day return policy?
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I've always found Hulk, along with others in this thread, to be rather helpful. Its refreshing to see considering the number of people that seemingly keep secrets for whatever reason. Hulk has gone out of his way to help me with things when no one else would, however ;-)
+1
Hulk has always jumped in to offer advice and assistance diagnosing issues without any ulterior motives or selfish reasons. It does get noticed who's here in support of the "community" and who is here to just show-boat.
Just my 2 cents...
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:

Pros:

- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.

Those were the only pros for me.

Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.

Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
Cheers Craig that's good real world feedback and the sort of thing this forum benefits from.


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i like how the plastic brass on your trophy brings out the beige in your formica. no, really.
Haaha regardless of who it is or who it's directed at - 10 points for troll comment of the thread. no, really.

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Haaha regardless of who it is or who it's directed at - 10 points for troll comment of the thread.
lolz

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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
I ran it for two years brotha, and will list my pros and cons:

Pros:

- Made the same power as c16 which was 542rwhp/702rwtq on the bip dyno dynamics. It read 15% lower than two local dynojet 224 dynos in hp.
-cost around $2/gallon at the time when I ran the corn.

Those were the only pros for me.

Cons:
-Went through e85 fuel pumps every 3 months due to our high fp demand.
-Would not crank under 50* F
- Had to run 1000cc injectors which surged at stop lights and caused cut outs.
-Had to delete the factory fuel filter and run an inline along with an adjustable FPR
-Replaced factory lines with ~8an feed with ~6an return.
-Changed fuel setup to return style.

Let me know if anyone has anymore e85 questions.
The torque!! What RPMs was the peak torque at?

If it made that on a heart breaker dyno then it's probably over 600 on a dynojet right?

E85 is MAGIC It's cheap race gas.
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You guys put wayyyy too much stock in dynos. They are good when tuning because you see a relative gain/loss in power but comparing different dynos under different conditions is pretty pointless.
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
You guys put wayyyy too much stock in dynos. They are good when tuning because you see a relative gain/loss in power but comparing different dynos under different conditions is pretty pointless.
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It's just being a gentlemen to valet up front if you're out on a date with a nice babe in high heels. Anything that makes you look cheap *** will not score points with the ladies.
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It's just being a gentlemen to valet up front if you're out on a date with a nice babe in high heels. Anything that makes you look cheap *** will not score points with the ladies.
Agree to disagree
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Originally Posted by rockthemullet
Agree to disagree
i'm sure you do. after all, your name is rock.the.mullet. you're not dating your sister......are you? if so, i'm sure your parents raised you better. lol
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i'm sure you do. after all, your name is rock.the.mullet. you're not dating your sister......are you? if so, i'm sure your parents raised you better. lol
Grow up. This is a car forum. This is a thread about hp. If you have nothing to say about those topics then just shut up. Go pay someone to build you a slow car
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Originally Posted by blackbenzz
Grow up. This is a car forum. This is a thread about hp. If you have nothing to say about those topics then just shut up. Go pay someone to build you a slow car


hey blackbenzz, you are absolutely right. speaking of which, have you dynoed your whip yet with all that gut wrenching power lately? sure it's pointless.........but then again, that's what the thread is about? you d*ck measure over 50-75hp and .5 in the 1/4 from each other here while other platforms are at levels of hundreds of hp apart/ seconds in the 1/4. then again, the insecure kid generally attempts to be the bully

looking back at your comments, you have somehow convinced yourself that you are a level of speed racer that anyone here has yet to achieve. weird. kinda curious how some of you all act in your everyday life? me? like to have fun while not taking things too serious.


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