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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 03:12 PM
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what's the most power (RWHP) out of a factory blower?

whats the most power a person can make with factory blower?? To the tire with a e55?

Mods would be
smallest pulley possible on blower (have fixed 77 now but there is some room to machine it smaller if blower can handle spinning harder) btw how hard can a person spin the factory blower
bigger throttle body
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cold air intake (ie I made one already and car sounds *****en/aggressive lol)
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meth or possible e85.

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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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17-18psi, mid to high 500rwhp is max on factory blower
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 12:13 AM
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 09:24 AM
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I think 61x-62x whp is possible if you had ported heads like Brooke did on his CL55 and he got over 600whp.

I'm curious to know, how much power would one gain running E85 on these, I know Craig was running E85 so it's possible. E85 has a MASSIVE advantages. How much of a power and torque increase would E85 yield on a maxed out E55.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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e85 would be worth 40-70hp over gas on one of these cars from my experience with it for the past 10 years now.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by vikingdiesel
17-18psi, mid to high 500rwhp is max on factory blower
how much power your car make??
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dans776
e85 would be worth 40-70hp over gas on one of these cars from my experience with it for the past 10 years now.
At the wheels? WOW!! That's a substantial gain. It's alot safer too. I don't think 550cc injectors will cut it though will they for E85. Not sure if the fuel pump needs upgrading too. It's not a cold friendly fuel but I know alot of guys in my extended area who run it on Evos and what not and they have no start up issues.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 02:48 PM
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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I made 619. Lots of mods that made LOTS of heat
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Hulk laid down 580hp and over 600 stump pulling torque to the wheels on a Mustang dyno. Ran 11.10 at PBIR in the heat, full weight and he's probably 270. RBJ managed a bit faster (think 11.01) but his car was gutted with just a drivers seat. RBJ then ran 10.70 @MIR. Hulks car would run mid 10s @MIR in record breaking weather, when most like to run and there's nitrous in the air.

Lowpro holds the record, I think he made 530 to the wheels, not sure which dyno.

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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
Hulk laid down 580hp and over 600 stump pulling torque to the wheels on a Mustang dyno. Ran 11.10 at PBIR in the heat, full weight and he's probably 270. RBJ managed a bit faster (think 11.01) but his car was gutted with just a drivers seat. RBJ then ran 10.70 @MIR. Hulks car would run mid 10s @MIR in record breaking weather, when most like to run and there's nitrous in the air.
Any Proof of hulks car making that?? I highly doubt it made that much

And my car only had the 2 front seats out. The back seats weigh nothing plus I had a custom steal roll brace built on my race seat that put weight back in. Car was no where near "gutted". Everything else was still in the car. And all the cooling I added, plus meth tank also added weight. Plus I weighed 220. Car still weighed in 42xxlbs

And I only made 550whp on Q16 for those runs.

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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 07:30 PM
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I remember your car with a drivers seat that night. I know you wanted that 10.XX, I thought you had no back seat and pulled the rug out. Maybe another time?

I seen the dyno sheet, def aint blue****. Anyway, my point is. Just numbers and they change due to weather and location.

RBJ your cars race weight was 4020 with you in it, I think that was in MIR?

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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
Hulk laid down 580hp and over 600 stump pulling torque to the wheels on a Mustang dyno. Ran 11.10 at PBIR in the heat, full weight and he's probably 270. RBJ managed a bit faster (think 11.01) but his car was gutted with just a drivers seat. RBJ then ran 10.70 @MIR. Hulks car would run mid 10s @MIR in record breaking weather, when most like to run and there's nitrous in the air.

Lowpro holds the record, I think he made 530 to the wheels, not sure which dyno.
580 and only a 11.10? What's the mph? Did he have DR's on?
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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580 and only a 11.10? What's the mph? Did he have DR's on?

Track prep was chit, he ran with 18inch DR and stock wheels up front, mph was 125. Let me just add this was the first time he raced the car. Most know it takes at least 20 good passes to get the hang of running down the 1/4. Tire pressure, launch, proper cool down etc.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
I remember your car with a drivers seat that night. I know you wanted that 10.XX, I thought you had no back seat and pulled the rug out. Maybe another time?

I seen the dyno sheet, def aint blue****. Anyway, my point is. Just numbers and they change due to weather and location.

RBJ your cars race weight was 4020 with you in it, I think that was in MIR?
Yup that's what is weighed at Silver Dollar In GA with everything I could think of out of the car and front skinnies. (Thanks to Chawkins). Not at PBIR
Originally Posted by kustom2k1
Track prep was chit, he ran with 18inch DR and stock wheels up front, mph was 125. Let me just add this was the first time he raced the car. Most know it takes at least 20 good passes to get the hang of running down the 1/4. Tire pressure, launch, proper cool down etc.
I seem to remember Hulks car at Street Car Drags before that. He ran it there. I also remember driving it for him that day also. Just saying, that's not the first time he's raced it
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 09:25 PM
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Here we go with MIR and the MIRacle record breaking track. All of my 10.50's and 10.60's were with +2400ft DA on 80 degree days with mutiple people looking at the car with no nitrous bottle in it. A dyno number has nothing to do with track times. My car weighed 4410lbs. If hulk made 580/600 on a mustang dyno then he should be making around what I made on a dynojet. 125mph trap doesn't show it.
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Old Aug 13, 2015 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by e55amgrocket
Here we go with MIR and the MIRacle record breaking track. All of my 10.50's and 10.60's were with +2400ft DA on 80 degree days with mutiple people looking at the car with no nitrous bottle in it. A dyno number has nothing to do with track times. My car weighed 4410lbs. If hulk made 580/600 on a mustang dyno then he should be making around what I made on a dynojet. 125mph trap doesn't show it.
Maybe Jesus was in the passenger seat. Maybe your right, MIR and cold weather have nothing to do with running fast(er) times than an area that has over 80% humiity and 90 degree days more than any other state. Everybody that wants to break records hauls their car down to PBIR and not to MIR or ATCO.

RBJ ran 11.01 at PBIR and 10.70 breaking up on the top end @MIR. Your right MIR is the same level as PBIR and he should have ran that same number here in Florida. That what your saying?

Back in the 80s I ran @ Englishtown because it was closer and traveled down to Atco because it was faster. Ran consistently .2 faster @ Atco than Englishtown. Jesus?
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At the wheels? WOW!! That's a substantial gain. It's alot safer too. I don't think 550cc injectors will cut it though will they for E85. Not sure if the fuel pump needs upgrading too. It's not a cold friendly fuel but I know alot of guys in my extended area who run it on Evos and what not and they have no start up issues.
600 whp on 60lb injecotrs on e85 is about maxed out on mustangs. I'd like to see a 800cc injector for that hp level so they are not maxed out.

? has anyone had a blower ported??
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
Maybe Jesus was in the passenger seat. Maybe your right, MIR and cold weather have nothing to do with running fast(er) times than an area that has over 80% humiity and 90 degree days more than any other state. Everybody that wants to break records hauls their car down to PBIR and not to MIR or ATCO.

RBJ ran 11.01 at PBIR and 10.70 breaking up on the top end @MIR. Your right MIR is the same level as PBIR and he should have ran that same number here in Florida. That what your saying?

Back in the 80s I ran @ Englishtown because it was closer and traveled down to Atco because it was faster. Ran consistently .2 faster @ Atco than Englishtown. Jesus?
I ran 10.2 at MIR in 45 degree weather in the morning and came back to PBIR 2 weeks later and ran 10.3 in 85 degree weather at 2 o'clock in the afternoon. Hulk just needs to be content with his low 11s car. And 125mph does not sound like 580whp. Just saying

And why are you on here talking about hulks car? He's on here all the time trying to give people info like he knows what he's talking about. Why hasn't he posted this??

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Why do we even care about dyno numbers? They mean very little. The fact is the stock blower is capable of 10's. My 98 ls1 pulled a whopping 285 rwhp and ran consistent 12.9's. High stall and stock from throttle body to exhaust tips and was beating built big blocks that had 150+ More hp.
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I ran 129mph in GA heat at 11.0. It made 542rwhp on a dyno dynamics and 702rwtq with e85 fuel. Dyno jet numbers were 574rwhp when I ran 10.84 at 127mph.
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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 12:59 AM
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Damn you guys make some serious power I have all the boltons + ported heads and a stock blower. Best mph is 122, I'm doing something wrong.
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Originally Posted by kustom2k1
Maybe Jesus was in the passenger seat. Maybe your right, MIR and cold weather have nothing to do with running fast(er) times than an area that has over 80% humiity and 90 degree days more than any other state. Everybody that wants to break records hauls their car down to PBIR and not to MIR or ATCO.

RBJ ran 11.01 at PBIR and 10.70 breaking up on the top end @MIR. Your right MIR is the same level as PBIR and he should have ran that same number here in Florida. That what your saying?

Back in the 80s I ran @ Englishtown because it was closer and traveled down to Atco because it was faster. Ran consistently .2 faster @ Atco than Englishtown. Jesus?
My point is everyone seems to think MIR is this mythical track where everyone sets records. That's somewhat true but we have the same heat and humidity florida has we just don't have it all year. Track prep at th rentals is also usually very good. Elliot never had a 60ft at PBIR like he did at MIR so that alone accounts for a good portion of his time drop.
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How are your stock motors liking the power? And whose tuning these on e85?
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Damn you guys make some serious power I have all the boltons + ported heads and a stock blower. Best mph is 122, I'm doing something wrong.
What was the DA and your IAT's like? If they were decent, which ported heads are you running and did you do before/after to make sure you gained power and didn't lose it.
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My point is everyone seems to think MIR is this mythical track where everyone sets records. That's somewhat true but we have the same heat and humidity florida has we just don't have it all year. Track prep at th rentals is also usually very good. Elliot never had a 60ft at PBIR like he did at MIR so that alone accounts for a good portion of his time drop.
+1. DA is DA no matter where you run. Orlando speedway preps the track really well from what I hear. If I had the time and money I'd put my car on a trailer or have it shipped around the country to different tracks to shut some people up
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