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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 05:14 AM
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Exclamation Encounter with Maserati

Coming home from In N Out burger around 1:20 AM in Los Angeles, CA. Maserati was tailing me and instigating. That exhaust was nice as ****. Anyways we pair up at a green light. When the light hits green, I don't floor it but give him a bit of an edge. He has low end torque so he pushed a bit ahead but as soon as I hit 4-4.5k RPM, the strong pull of the E63 came and I overtook him. We stopped at 85-90 and I had a good 1.5-2 cars on him. I would assume it was the Ghibli S or Ghibli SQ4 because the base Ghibli is a 5.6s 0-60 and this one felt much much faster. (4.8 or 5 sec). Anyways, he didn't come by my window, he made the first right as soon as he could. Wonder if the quattroporte or the grandturismo would beat me but not walk me. Btw, I'm completely stock except for a resonator delete that pushes my powerband a bit higher.

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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 05:31 AM
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I was interested in a Maserati but their performance numbers suck
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 05:34 AM
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I was interested in a Maserati but their performance numbers suck
Beautiful car, beautiful noise, ok performance. I feel ya.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by HykakanAMG
I'm completely stock except for a resonator delete that pushes my powerband a bit higher.
Can you please post the dyno chart that shows that the power band was changed by the deletion of the resonator?
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 06:37 AM
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Can you please post the dyno chart that shows that the power band was changed by the deletion of the resonator?
No dyno my man but I definitely feel loss of low end torque when I did the mod. Xpipe is less loss but straight pipe is the most. I used to feel power buildup around 3500 rpm, now its like 4500. It is definitely 100% noticeable. You sacrifice low end torque for exhaust tone. Your power, torque are all the same except that they have slightly been pushed up the powerband.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Vanquish59
No dyno my man but I definitely feel loss of low end torque when I did the mod. Xpipe is less loss but straight pipe is the most. I used to feel power buildup around 3500 rpm, now its like 4500. It is definitely 100% noticeable. You sacrifice low end torque for exhaust tone. Your power, torque are all the same except that they have slightly been pushed up the powerband.
you've got something wrong with your car then - there is maybe 1-2% difference in airflow and that can be less than the difference of a hot vs cold day...
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Originally Posted by Vanquish59
No dyno my man but I definitely feel loss of low end torque when I did the mod. Xpipe is less loss but straight pipe is the most. I used to feel power buildup around 3500 rpm, now its like 4500. It is definitely 100% noticeable. You sacrifice low end torque for exhaust tone. Your power, torque are all the same except that they have slightly been pushed up the powerband.
M156's come to life at 4500. I don't think a resonator delete would of affected your powerband more than 1-2hp, unless you used 1" exhaust pipe to replace it . I've done resonator deletes on 211 e63's and my ml63 all with no noticeable difference in power. Before doing any exhaust work it still didn't have power until 4500.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 10:51 AM
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Resonator doesn't change powerband. It's all in your head!!
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Say what you guys wanna say. Before the delete, it felt different and after the delete I noticed it tremendously. Yes it might be a 1 inch pipe cannot tell for certain, but there is DEFINATELY a difference in the way the power comes.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MTV10
Resonator doesn't change powerband. It's all in your head!!
Yeah, your *** is lying to your brain.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:12 PM
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Yeah, your *** is lying to your brain.
Stfu ya?
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:28 PM
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I too have noticed this when I did my resonator delete.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:32 PM
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Tuning changes a "power band" not removing a small muffler..
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 07:48 PM
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Tuning changes a "power band" not removing a small muffler..
Go get an E63, remove resonator, then come talk.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 08:08 PM
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Yeah, your *** is lying to your brain.

LOL
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 08:15 PM
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Don't make me start with the canadian jokes LOL LOL LOL LOL
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanquish59
Go get an E63, remove resonator, then come talk.
You're kidding right? Do you know what a power band is?

Its the range between peak torque and peak horsepower. If peak torque is put down at 2000 rpms and peak horsepower is at 6000 rpms, then that range is your "power band"..

Did you look at the resonator they removed from your car? Its not restricting the flow at all. It muffles the sound.

I won't wait for a response from you trying to justify the physics of a resonator changing a motor's "power band".
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Cool bro.
If you want power... get a tune.

End of story.
Cheers.
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Originally Posted by FinanceMike
You're kidding right? Do you know what a power band is?

Its the range between peak torque and peak horsepower. If peak torque is put down at 2000 rpms and peak horsepower is at 6000 rpms, then that range is your "power band"..

Did you look at the resonator they removed from your car? Its not restricting the flow at all. It muffles the sound.

I won't wait for a response from you trying to justify the physics of a resonator changing a motor's "power band".
Thank you, sir.
Nice to see someone who knows what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted by FinanceMike
You're kidding right? Do you know what a power band is?

Its the range between peak torque and peak horsepower. If peak torque is put down at 2000 rpms and peak horsepower is at 6000 rpms, then that range is your "power band"..

Did you look at the resonator they removed from your car? Its not restricting the flow at all. It muffles the sound.

I won't wait for a response from you trying to justify the physics of a resonator changing a motor's "power band".
It sounds good on paper doesn't it buddy. We have two different cars though. Go get an M156 and drive it. If you haven't driven one with a removed resonator, then don't talk.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Vanquish59
It sounds good on paper doesn't it buddy. We have two different cars though. Go get an M156 and drive it. If you haven't driven one with a removed resonator, then don't talk.


I've driven every CLS and E Class AMG offering a time or two. I've also owned a couple variants of AMG cars, and there's a reason why none of them were an M156.

I tried to help but I guess you can't fix stupid.

Good luck getting your "power band" back.
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Maseratis, at least the NA ones are SLOW!! I would never buy one.
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Old Oct 10, 2015 | 11:40 PM
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Maseratis, at least the NA ones are SLOW!! I would never buy one.
This one I believe was v6 twin turbo.
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Old Oct 11, 2015 | 04:36 AM
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This one I believe was v6 twin turbo.
I can see those being pretty quick but I don't see their appeal. They're not very pretty in my opinion. The Quattroporte isn't too bad, the new one I mean as the old one 2004-2011 had a HORRIBLE interior.
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I can see those being pretty quick but I don't see their appeal. They're not very pretty in my opinion. The Quattroporte isn't too bad, the new one I mean as the old one 2004-2011 had a HORRIBLE interior.
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