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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 12:21 PM
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P0440 Code - keeps coming back

I've changed out:

- Fuel cap
- Purge Valve on driver's side

Every week I get a CEL... I scan and it comes out as 'P0440 Evaporative Emission System'

Clear it and it comes back a week later. Getting a little redundant.

What else could it be? Cracked lines maybe running to the purge valve? I read something about a charcoal canister?

Are there any negative effects if I run the car with this Evap Code always pending?

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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 01:50 PM
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Is there any fuel smell or visible leaks? If so, I believe the NHTSA fuel tank warranty extension would cover a repair at the dealer.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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Go back to the dealership
There could be a leak on those new pumps or tank since they didn't change out the tank.

Easiest scenario is the charcoal canister on rear passenger side
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Is this the one that says very small leak detected? I get that sometimes also. But not alway. Could it be charcoal canister, and how do you check it? Just swap it?
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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I have the exact same code and problem. Unfortunately I dont have a solution for you.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JoeNobody
Is there any fuel smell or visible leaks? If so, I believe the NHTSA fuel tank warranty extension would cover a repair at the dealer.
Already got the warranty work done my friend.

How do I access the Charcoal Cannister? Anyone have a DIY?

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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 12:27 PM
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The warranty work is not a one time deal, it's an extension of the warranty. If you smell fuel or see leaks, then the dealer will diagnose and fix it for free.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 08:38 PM
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I don't smell any fuel and there are no leaks.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 08:54 PM
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Fill tank to the brim, drive around a minute, and then sniff if there's fumes. If even a little stink, the dealer should handle it. The evap problem may have come from the dealers repairs. I am having continual evap codes ever since the dealer did my scam repair.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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not sure if you've already read similar threads but alot of old E55 owners were suffering through this problem.

2 years back I took my car into dealership and what they did was a software upgrade and on the invoice it said

"AMG raised the emission threshold" since then the light didn't come on. Can't remember the exact words but that's what they did.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:10 PM
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Just read you live in Canada ?

Are we covered under the warranty ?

I thought that only covered US.A ?
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 12:42 AM
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The easiest test, in my opinion, would be to smoke test the EVAP system. Especially since it's a code that keeps coming back. Majority of the EVAP leaks that I've diagnosed on 211s were coming from the valve on the charcoal canister. But to correctly diagnose that, you'd need the computer at the dealership to shut the valve. What I've seen is that the valve still leaks even after the valve is shut, which triggers the EVAP leak code hope that helps!
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 06:23 AM
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I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand this...I've told you before and I'll tell you again. A dealership replaced the fuel tank, therefor touching the EVAP components. You now have codes popping up regarding the components and now they are throwing error codes and CEL's. Get them to diag the issue and fix it. They will find out in 20 minutes what you will find out in 2 weeks of clearing codes in your garage and shaking your head
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand this...I've told you before and I'll tell you again. A dealership replaced the fuel tank, therefor touching the EVAP components. You now have codes popping up regarding the components and now they are throwing error codes and CEL's. Get them to diag the issue and fix it. They will find out in 20 minutes what you will find out in 2 weeks of clearing codes in your garage and shaking your head
He's in Montreal, Canada- we didn't get the warranty extended on our cars. (unless this changed and I don't know about it)

So he's trying to avoid additional costs. For me diagnosis is 200$

They've done it for free sometimes cuz I know the foreman or cuz I was nice lol

That's what I think but we'll find out more once OP posts again
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2000UZJ
I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand this...I've told you before and I'll tell you again. A dealership replaced the fuel tank, therefor touching the EVAP components. You now have codes popping up regarding the components and now they are throwing error codes and CEL's. Get them to diag the issue and fix it. They will find out in 20 minutes what you will find out in 2 weeks of clearing codes in your garage and shaking your head
1. My fuel tank was never replaced.
2. My fuel pumps / sending units were
3. This code was happening before the dealer even warrantied my car....


I can try and bring it into dealer to check.. but their rates are stupid and I refuse to support outrageous labour costs.
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MTV10
1. My fuel tank was never replaced.
2. My fuel pumps / sending units were
3. This code was happening before the dealer even warrantied my car....


I can try and bring it into dealer to check.. but their rates are stupid and I refuse to support outrageous labour costs.
Sorry for stepping out of line earlier. For some reason I thought you stated they replaced the tank like the US cars receive under warranty. Any good indy's near you? I threw parts at an issue and spent a little over $400 and then had the dealer find out it was a very cheap fix
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MTV10
1. My fuel tank was never replaced.
2. My fuel pumps / sending units were
3. This code was happening before the dealer even warrantied my car....


I can try and bring it into dealer to check.. but their rates are stupid and I refuse to support outrageous labour costs.
pay the rate. it will be much cheaper than spending hours of your time and throwing parts at it. thats why the rates are what they are because they have the proper equipment and knowledge to test and diagnose the system.
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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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for evap type issues I will take it to dealer to get diagnoses. If you get a good service writer he will give you a list of everything they recommend replacing. then you can do the work yourself.
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MTV10
1. My fuel tank was never replaced.
2. My fuel pumps / sending units were
3. This code was happening before the dealer even warrantied my car....


I can try and bring it into dealer to check.. but their rates are stupid and I refuse to support outrageous labour costs.
What's that suppose to mean?

Why would he warranty your car -if there is a pre-existing code related to this specific fuel related issue ?

Maybe we both are talking about something else and which is causing this confusion.

Do you know that US cars have extended warranty now on their fuel leaking issue ?

Is your car under warranty for that specific issue as well? if yes (how did you get that) and get it fix under the warranty -if not- get it diagnoses instead of buying parts.

Secondly, like I said before- I had a similar issue -they plugged the car in and they saw there was an update -Update was "AMG increased the evap thresholds" or similar thing like that.

Good luck
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Old Jan 29, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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Hmmmm.. interesting note regarding the update....
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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I have encountered this same issue. I have gotten the fuel tank, sending units , and what ever else goes with the tank replaced about a year ago. And this is the first time since then that I have had an issue. The 1st time it came up I got a red warning on the instrument cluster saying that my gas cap was off or not tight when it was on securely. I took it to autozone and had them flash it. Was good for about 100 miles and now is back. Has anyone actually resolved this issue with any success?????
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Old Apr 13, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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I had the gas cap warning light for about a month, I check and looked for possible leaks, did hours of Google research, I finally had one thing that it pointed to. The charcoal canister purge valve, which mercedes updated and requires a pigtail. Parts were at my door in less than a week and installed the very same day. That was over 6 months ago and no more lights or codes.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by lost_wave770
I had the gas cap warning light for about a month, I check and looked for possible leaks, did hours of Google research, I finally had one thing that it pointed to. The charcoal canister purge valve, which mercedes updated and requires a pigtail. Parts were at my door in less than a week and installed the very same day. That was over 6 months ago and no more lights or codes.
I also replaced my purge valve shortly after a warranty fuel tank replacement at the dealership. It cost under $70 off eBay and fixed the code. It hasn't come back after several months now.
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue55
I also replaced my purge valve shortly after a warranty fuel tank replacement at the dealership. It cost under $70 off eBay and fixed the code. It hasn't come back after several months now.
Do you have the part #
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Old Apr 14, 2016 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jak123
Do you have the part #
You should be able to do some quick googling and find part numbers for both valve and pigtail.
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