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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:14 PM
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Airmatic Issues, again. Dead pump?

More airmatic issues.

Noticed the car was getting more bouncy, and noticed my drag radials were starting to rub on bumps even though they were fine before. Was also getting the visit workshop with the cute little airmatic is busted picture.

Now, it seems like the passenger rear is the lowest of each corner. But, the issue is even when trying to raise the car up, the car does nothing. When I had a blown front strut/bag, the car would atleast try to go up, and you'd hear the pump working, etc.

I can't hear anything, and the car itself looks lower all the way around. My drag radials also poke pretty good, so I don't think thats allowing the car to drop all the way down if it was a bad rear bag.

But I just don't see it being a bag. I can't hear the pump working at all, and even the fronts wont go up at all.

I purchased a new relay, and a used pump that was in fine working condition (70k miles) and still nothing has changed.

I cannot raise the car up at all, and I can't hear the pump. Usually when I'd open my doors, Id hear a rush of air sometimes.

I checked the airmatic fuses, and they were fine.

Would a blown rear bag cause the car not to raise? I can't really drive the car anywhere, so is there a way I could test the pump without ripping it out of the car again?

Also, do the airmatic functions work while the car is in Battery Protection mode? I also had an issue with my battery dieing as well, and I pulled number 6 fuse last night to the audiogetway to rule that out, but even after having the car on for 30-40 minutes I never got all the functions back. Battery was pretty dead.

Any insight? lol
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Do you know where the correct fuse location is? Most people dont. I'm assuming you know the relay location as well.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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The relay location is in the fusebox in the engine bay. Far back. I swapped that out.

I was reading, and apparently theres a 40amp fuse in the passenger footwell?
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:19 PM
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Yes the fuse is under the passenger footwell.
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Old Jan 31, 2016 | 09:48 PM
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Didn't check that. I guess ill try that tomorrow.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:55 AM
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What would cause the fuse to blow?
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 03:09 AM
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There is also a level sensor in the rear, make sure your subframe bolts aren't broken as well.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 06:26 AM
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What would cause the fuse to blow?
The air compressor seizes up/short circuits internally.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:26 AM
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Get a contact cleaner to clean the acceleration sensors if you see the white airmatic visit workshop.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by edmond1129
Get a contact cleaner to clean the acceleration sensors if you see the white airmatic visit workshop.
airmatic doesn't use acceleration sensors. ABC uses them.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:20 PM
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I don't think its the subframe bolts. I would hear/feel it. Is there 2 level sensors for the rear, or just 1? I figured there was 1 per side.

This happened randomly when I left my hotel and came out to the car when I noticed the level light. I'll check the level sensor and the fuse today.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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Also, the car gradually got lower and lower. Its not like it came down all at once, plus I can't hear the pump.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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So, the carpet is up. What am I looking for again? Since I see no fuses.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:12 PM
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You need to take the metal panel off. 3 plastic 10mm nuts.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
You need to take the metal panel off. 3 plastic 10mm nuts.
Okay, so the fuse was blown. Now I can hear the pump working when I turn the key. It cycles, then soon after the visit workshop shows up again and the car still won't raise up or down. Not really sure what else to try at this point.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 06:07 PM
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You prob got a junk pump. Either buy a new one or have it properly diagnosed with star by someone who knows how to diagnose it.
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I suppose I can try to find someone with Star. But I figured if the pump was junk, it wouldn't run at all.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 06:27 PM
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Not true. The pump can be heard to run and not make the required amount of pressure and will turn off to protect it from over heating. The pressure output needs to be checked with star.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:40 PM
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well, I have my old pump that I thought was bad out of the car. I suppose ill test it out of the car and see.

But is it wrong of me to think, even if I did have a bad bag somewhere, that if the pump was working correctly, that the other shocks would get air and the car would raise up?
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 12:16 AM
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Correct. If the pump worked and 1 bag leaks then the other 3 will still rise.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 02:11 AM
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I appreciate all the help.

Another thing. If for some reason something was messed up with the rear level sensor, would that keep the fronts from airing up or down? Im just trying to narrow down the possibilities of what might or might not be busted. I took a look and everything appeared to be fine. Subframe looked fine as well.
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 10:29 PM
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Figured id update. I'm not in a huge rush since I cant drive the car for another 2 months anyways, but I unhooked the line from the pump that goes directly to the valve body that sends the air into the struts. Since the larger/fatter line sends air into the filter, I undid the smaller one, and when trying to raise the car (thats when the other solienoid opens on the pump, letting air flow into and through the pump) the pressure coming from the pump was weak at best. Hardly blowing any air. I would guess the used pump I snagged has a bad seal. So I'll be replacing the seal.

I also built a connnector from some aligator clips, wire, and a perfect fitting spare plug body I had ordered. I made a circut that uses a car battery to run 12 volts through the pump to test it. I tested my older pump that I assumed died and blew my fuse, since when plugged it in the pump does not kick on.

I'll make a video on what I bought/used, and give some examples. I know this system is a pain to trouble shoot, so hopefully this helps in the future.

Edit: Also, when I tried raising the car, the pump 100% was running as it should.
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Thanks for the update. I'm watching all of these Airmatic issues closely because my Visit Workshop light also comes on sometimes. The ride level is fine, but if I raise the car the driver left does not go up. Hope I don't wake up to a slammed car one morning.
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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If the left side of the car doesn't go up, you probably have a bad strut or a leak on that side. There's only 1 level sensor that controls both rear struts, while the front has its own individual sensor on each strut.
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Old Feb 13, 2016 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruthle55
If the left side of the car doesn't go up, you probably have a bad strut or a leak on that side. There's only 1 level sensor that controls both rear struts, while the front has its own individual sensor on each strut.
Your right, but the ride height seems fine. I'm trying to decide between the start of a bunch of costly repairs as the Airmatic system fails, or just bite the bullet right now and go to Strutmasters or some other non-air system.
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