e63 Seats swap in E55
02-06-2016, 04:41 PM
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e63 Seats swap in E55
I'm thinking of swapping some E63 seats in my 2003 E55. Can anyone tell me if this would be a direct swap? My car does NOT have "cool","pulse","dynamic" features nor the seats i'm looking to swap.
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02-06-2016, 08:07 PM
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Only difference in options would be that my seats are not cooled and the e63 ones are. Both "my car and donor car" do not have pulse or dynamic.
02-06-2016, 08:23 PM
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I was reading somewhere that 2003&2004 use different wiring than latter models. Then someone installed some e63 seats in their e55 and it was blowing some fuses. Can someone with e63 seats in their e55 confirm? I habr no problem with coding if necessary just want to make sure the harness and wiring would be the same.
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02-09-2016, 08:10 AM
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I did a swap for facelift seats in a prefacelift, mind you this was NOT an AMG.
The fuses kept blowing so I started to check the electric connections. I figured out they are different but it was very easy to do as all you need is the connector on the other side of the car (E63) or at least a schematic of where the respective wires are in correlation to the little numbers on the connector are. If you have the connectors from the E63 then you need to cut off the one on the E55 side and match solder the E63 connectors with the colors exactly.
Now I remember one of the thick wires that used to GO TO THE SMALLER CONNECTOR FROM THE WIRING HARNESS had to be soldered to corresponding thick, color matching one on the BIGGER connector.
I'm sure I just described it very confusingly but once I figured it out it was easy and everything worked and no fuses. I think the AMG seats are the same deal.
It's very similar to the post-05 steering indicator assembly install in pre-05s which was easier than people described it, basically a new connector and match soldering the wires to the colors from the new connector to the car's side.
On the seats however, there was a thick wire that needed to cross over to the bigger connector from the smaller one. So the little connector that had THREE wires going to it will now have only 2 and one just cut off and insulated. The other 2 on the smaller connector DID NOT have to be rearranged or modified, the little connector stays the same.
The NEW bigger connector will now have at extra wire going to the very thick wire that it has in it which the old one didn't.
By the way I'm talking about the black connectors, not that yellow one which is for the airbag and seat belt and light and on the passenger side, the electric mat for the passenger occupancy sensor. The yellow connector didn't have anything to do with the seat mechanism.
What I did for the yellow connector was take the female part on the pre-facelift seat and install it on the new seat. Then I took the color coded wires from the new seat belt and soldered them to the connector from the older seat belt so they can connect.
For the occupancy sensor, I actually put in the old one under the leather of the new seat, which I took off, and so that can also plug in to the existing safety (yellow) harness.
The light I did the same thing, old light and old connector just mounted on the seat.
The airbag, what I did was leave on and then grabbed the whole old harness for the seat airbag from the old seat, cutting off the ground wire obviously that is riveted and installing it into the new seat airbag and soldering the ground wire connection to the one on the new seat.
This must have been very confusing, also, this was a pre to post facelift NON-AMG project but it should be the same but I'm not certain.
The fuses kept blowing so I started to check the electric connections. I figured out they are different but it was very easy to do as all you need is the connector on the other side of the car (E63) or at least a schematic of where the respective wires are in correlation to the little numbers on the connector are. If you have the connectors from the E63 then you need to cut off the one on the E55 side and match solder the E63 connectors with the colors exactly.
Now I remember one of the thick wires that used to GO TO THE SMALLER CONNECTOR FROM THE WIRING HARNESS had to be soldered to corresponding thick, color matching one on the BIGGER connector.
I'm sure I just described it very confusingly but once I figured it out it was easy and everything worked and no fuses. I think the AMG seats are the same deal.
It's very similar to the post-05 steering indicator assembly install in pre-05s which was easier than people described it, basically a new connector and match soldering the wires to the colors from the new connector to the car's side.
On the seats however, there was a thick wire that needed to cross over to the bigger connector from the smaller one. So the little connector that had THREE wires going to it will now have only 2 and one just cut off and insulated. The other 2 on the smaller connector DID NOT have to be rearranged or modified, the little connector stays the same.
The NEW bigger connector will now have at extra wire going to the very thick wire that it has in it which the old one didn't.
By the way I'm talking about the black connectors, not that yellow one which is for the airbag and seat belt and light and on the passenger side, the electric mat for the passenger occupancy sensor. The yellow connector didn't have anything to do with the seat mechanism.
What I did for the yellow connector was take the female part on the pre-facelift seat and install it on the new seat. Then I took the color coded wires from the new seat belt and soldered them to the connector from the older seat belt so they can connect.
For the occupancy sensor, I actually put in the old one under the leather of the new seat, which I took off, and so that can also plug in to the existing safety (yellow) harness.
The light I did the same thing, old light and old connector just mounted on the seat.
The airbag, what I did was leave on and then grabbed the whole old harness for the seat airbag from the old seat, cutting off the ground wire obviously that is riveted and installing it into the new seat airbag and soldering the ground wire connection to the one on the new seat.
This must have been very confusing, also, this was a pre to post facelift NON-AMG project but it should be the same but I'm not certain.
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Hi I am trying to figure out the same thing but I have a facelift w211 and I am trying to put E55 AMG seats into it, the wiring and everything connects the same. The Heated and Ventilated seats work perfect but the seats don't move forward/back. I am not sure how to fix this, can anyone help?
07-09-2018, 07:16 PM
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I’ve had my E63 seats installed on my 2004 E55 for about a year now everything functions properly except for I get an SRS light that I can’t seem to clear . If anyone has used the Icarsoft Diag tool this is what happens when I choose to communicate with the SRS module... it just resets my tool back to the main menu. Also passenger airbag off indicator stays on regardless if someone is sitting in the seat or not but I’m not getting any fault codes when I go into the weight sensing system module. Has anyone done the swap before if so what did you have to do to get SRS light cleared .
11-24-2020, 08:44 PM
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Do you recall or can you take a pic of what exactly your talking about? My thick wire connector has a red/yellow orange/red and a brown. Which do I disconnect because none of the other harnesses have a corresponding color and the larger harness has no large wires at all.
The fuses kept blowing so I started to check the electric connections. I figured out they are different but it was very easy to do as all you need is the connector on the other side of the car (E63) or at least a schematic of where the respective wires are in correlation to the little numbers on the connector are. If you have the connectors from the E63 then you need to cut off the one on the E55 side and match solder the E63 connectors with the colors exactly.
Now I remember one of the thick wires that used to GO TO THE SMALLER CONNECTOR FROM THE WIRING HARNESS had to be soldered to corresponding thick, color matching one on the BIGGER connector.
I'm sure I just described it very confusingly but once I figured it out it was easy and everything worked and no fuses. I think the AMG seats are the same deal.
It's very similar to the post-05 steering indicator assembly install in pre-05s which was easier than people described it, basically a new connector and match soldering the wires to the colors from the new connector to the car's side.
On the seats however, there was a thick wire that needed to cross over to the bigger connector from the smaller one. So the little connector that had THREE wires going to it will now have only 2 and one just cut off and insulated. The other 2 on the smaller connector DID NOT have to be rearranged or modified, the little connector stays the same.
The NEW bigger connector will now have at extra wire going to the very thick wire that it has in it which the old one didn't.
By the way I'm talking about the black connectors, not that yellow one which is for the airbag and seat belt and light and on the passenger side, the electric mat for the passenger occupancy sensor. The yellow connector didn't have anything to do with the seat mechanism.
What I did for the yellow connector was take the female part on the pre-facelift seat and install it on the new seat. Then I took the color coded wires from the new seat belt and soldered them to the connector from the older seat belt so they can connect.
For the occupancy sensor, I actually put in the old one under the leather of the new seat, which I took off, and so that can also plug in to the existing safety (yellow) harness.
The light I did the same thing, old light and old connector just mounted on the seat.
The airbag, what I did was leave on and then grabbed the whole old harness for the seat airbag from the old seat, cutting off the ground wire obviously that is riveted and installing it into the new seat airbag and soldering the ground wire connection to the one on the new seat.
This must have been very confusing, also, this was a pre to post facelift NON-AMG project but it should be the same but I'm not certain.
Now I remember one of the thick wires that used to GO TO THE SMALLER CONNECTOR FROM THE WIRING HARNESS had to be soldered to corresponding thick, color matching one on the BIGGER connector.
I'm sure I just described it very confusingly but once I figured it out it was easy and everything worked and no fuses. I think the AMG seats are the same deal.
It's very similar to the post-05 steering indicator assembly install in pre-05s which was easier than people described it, basically a new connector and match soldering the wires to the colors from the new connector to the car's side.
On the seats however, there was a thick wire that needed to cross over to the bigger connector from the smaller one. So the little connector that had THREE wires going to it will now have only 2 and one just cut off and insulated. The other 2 on the smaller connector DID NOT have to be rearranged or modified, the little connector stays the same.
The NEW bigger connector will now have at extra wire going to the very thick wire that it has in it which the old one didn't.
By the way I'm talking about the black connectors, not that yellow one which is for the airbag and seat belt and light and on the passenger side, the electric mat for the passenger occupancy sensor. The yellow connector didn't have anything to do with the seat mechanism.
What I did for the yellow connector was take the female part on the pre-facelift seat and install it on the new seat. Then I took the color coded wires from the new seat belt and soldered them to the connector from the older seat belt so they can connect.
For the occupancy sensor, I actually put in the old one under the leather of the new seat, which I took off, and so that can also plug in to the existing safety (yellow) harness.
The light I did the same thing, old light and old connector just mounted on the seat.
The airbag, what I did was leave on and then grabbed the whole old harness for the seat airbag from the old seat, cutting off the ground wire obviously that is riveted and installing it into the new seat airbag and soldering the ground wire connection to the one on the new seat.
This must have been very confusing, also, this was a pre to post facelift NON-AMG project but it should be the same but I'm not certain.
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You would be well to acquire MB WIS (Workshop Information System) which is the repair catalog created by MB for all models and it includes the schematics. You don't need the most current version due to the age of the cars, so you should be able to find it for easy money.
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11-29-2020, 06:06 PM
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I used the same module from the 03 seats. I cut off all the connectors from the 03 seats and I rejoined the 03 connectors to the 63 seats via soldering and heat shrinking every wire. For reference, I consulted WIS schematics to work out what went where from the 2 variant models.
