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Old 03-01-2016, 10:59 AM
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e55-03 , m3 e36 irs drag car
ok got my first running **** mode this morning
for me it was not 82mm tb related, got it first whith 550cc injectors and mailtune
im sure i can map it out

but first must get rid off the anoying fault code that comes back as soon as start the engine p208c-002 magnetic clutch. i have tried to solder in the resistor but it does not help
gonna try a 1k 1w resistor, annyone ellse got prblem whith the 560ohm resistor that commes whith the fsp?

Mitch
im doing fuel ,ignition and methanol pwm soleniod thru a injector driver
go to ecumaserusa for more info, there is a lot you can do whith it

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one is feeding compressor whith meat
and one to each cylinderbank

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When I first had the fixed pulley and had some strange running issues, I wired in a potentiometer (variable resistor) to do some experimenting. I did not find any differences when I changed the resistance.

I did have a cold start issue, where the car would run like *** if I did not put the ignition in position 2 for several seconds before starting the car. If the engine was warm, it would not do this. If the car entered "*** mode", the only way to clear it was for me to pull the battery cable for ~10 minutes. This was while running the fixed pulley.
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Originally Posted by bmwm3turbo
Mitch
im doing fuel ,ignition and methanol pwm soleniod thru a injector driver
go to ecumaserusa for more info, there is a lot you can do whith it
Right on, congratulations man. Im interested to see what issues you have as im sure ill experience some of my own as well. There's a few more things i plan on utilizing mine for. Traction control and throttle control, and fuel pump output control are the main things i plan on controlling in addition to fuel, ignition, and wm injection that you're doing.
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Anthony Lawshee (ex Buckhead Imports Performance) tunes the fixed pulleys with good results and he does not use resistors, he leaves everything plugged in

You might want to get in touch with him for some insight on this if needed
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Originally Posted by Denroll
When I first had the fixed pulley and had some strange running issues, I wired in a potentiometer (variable resistor) to do some experimenting. I did not find any differences when I changed the resistance.

I did have a cold start issue, where the car would run like *** if I did not put the ignition in position 2 for several seconds before starting the car. If the engine was warm, it would not do this. If the car entered "*** mode", the only way to clear it was for me to pull the battery cable for ~10 minutes. This was while running the fixed pulley.
if you didnt confirmed whith das, you just guesing
this code wiil not show upp on most obd readers
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Originally Posted by menace2sobriety
Anthony Lawshee (ex Buckhead Imports Performance) tunes the fixed pulleys with good results and he does not use resistors, he leaves everything plugged in

You might want to get in touch with him for some insight on this if needed
the meaning whith the piggyback is that is possible to resolve this isues and not be reliable on a tuner
im sorry to say but all off my mailtunes has been ****t
and was the same saga a few years back whith a c32
and allways same reply from the salesperson
"our tuner is the best in mb, tuned thousunds and always spot on"
yea dont think so
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all good now runns great, whith no codes
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done some meth tuning today
cars realy starts to fly on the 3rd gear tuning pulls
butt dyno on on regular tune vs tuned whiths loads off meths 3*500cc injectors
says atleast 100hp difference

got some fuel taken out whith meth
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Glad its running great

Originally Posted by bmwm3turbo
done some meth tuning today
cars realy starts to fly on the 3rd gear tuning pulls
butt dyno on on regular tune vs tuned whiths loads off meths 3*500cc injectors
says atleast 100hp difference

got some fuel taken out whith meth
What ratio meth:water are you running and how rich did it make your afr?
Also, under what conditions/parameters are you triggering the spray?
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Originally Posted by nanayaw6
What ratio meth:water are you running and how rich did it make your afr?
Also, under what conditions/parameters are you triggering the spray?
50/50wm it richens the afr around 1-1,5 point afr
i map it thru a pwm solinoid whith a injector driver and the parrameter i use to map it is rpm tps and boost

the key iss to be able to map for it
take fuel out off the base map and ad some ignition timing there is were the fun beggins
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Sweet setup

Originally Posted by bmwm3turbo
50/50wm it richens the afr around 1-1,5 point afr
i map it thru a pwm solinoid whith a injector driver and the parrameter i use to map it is rpm tps and boost

the key iss to be able to map for it
take fuel out off the base map and ad some ignition timing there is were the fun beggins
Nicely done and thanks for the info too.
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So your total afr under boost is?
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I don't really understand why you would want your axis' to be tps x rpm instead of manifold absolute x rpm, but you're in charge, not me. Lol.
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Originally Posted by Mitch Detailed
I don't really understand why you would want your axis' to be tps x rpm instead of manifold absolute x rpm, but you're in charge, not me. Lol.
ha no axis is rpm and map
tps is 3d

my afr is realy fast
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
So your total afr under boost is?
+1
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ha no axis is rpm and map
tps is 3d

my afr is realy fast
Sooo...when you say really fast....just how fast is that? LOL Just kidding !!! Great job on this project!! Keep us posted as you make it available.
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What is your afr before and after you adjust with the piggyback?
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Originally Posted by Hulk
What is your afr before and after you adjust with the piggyback?
pig rich before=sub 10 and offcourse leaner after
i set it where i want to
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Interesting info. Can you control tps(throttle position) and timing also?

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Interesting info. Can you control tps(throttle position) and timing also?
Timing yes
Tps no
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Ok let us know on the meth if you added timing and what the finishing afr was with meth, this is pretty good
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Looks like you are breaking ground for this platform, good job man!
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Originally Posted by chawkins2001
Looks like you are breaking ground for this platform, good job man!


i have not been able to fix the cold start problems yet
when you make adjustements in the closed loop range down low
you have to drive the car one or two days till the ltfts has adjusted
so its little time consuming but im not giving upp on this

i have a theory that its coupled to the the oil breathing port in the throttle body
when the engine is cold there could be to much blow by in the engine and makes it go lean, i should try to block it and just drive whith open oil breather and se iff its helps the cold starts
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in the bottom left is where im trying to foul stock ecu to se more vacum on startup
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Looking good bro

What did you adjust on the meth, how much added timing and what afr did you end with?


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