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Old 05-02-2016, 03:40 PM
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Stalling after cold start

Hi, I have a 2005 e55, this morning I went to go start my car and it started up but was idling rough and then stalled, after it stalled I tried starting it and fired right up like normal, car has 70k and crankshaft sensor was changed at 59k, any ideas as to what is causing the stalling?
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Check for fault codes and start with monitoring fuel pressure.
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It threw no codes
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e55-03 , m3 e36 irs drag car
same as mine
i always come around it this way
turn igniton on 3sec -turn off ,and then start (im guessing loosing fuelpressure when it sitts still is my problem)
iff do not do it that way my car throws mappsensor code at coold startup, and going ultra lean
these cars are so sensitive
this problem came whith 550cc inj and 82mm tb, didnt have it whith stock injectors and tb
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Check SAI plumbing....could be a leaking.
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Check SAI plumbing....could be a leaking.
yes that could be your problem

dont have secondaary air injection on my car

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Mine is completely stock and it hesitates on startup sometimes but has only stalled once so far and what's the SAI plumbing?
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See attached picture of the Emission/SAI System...
Description: essentially dumps air to your cats for a brief period until they get to "operating temp". If any of the emission hoses are leaking, clogged and/or the shut off valves are faulty, you will get exactly what you described @ startup. This issue is associated with a P0410 code.
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I'm off this weekend so I guess ik what I will be doing, plus just in case I got new plugs and wires and air filter to see if that helps
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I'm curious as to how in any way the secondary air injection system could cause rough idle or stalling.
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Im just doing that cause filters were dirty, I'm hoping plugs help it because it has stock plugs at 70k
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
I'm curious as to how in any way the secondary air injection system could cause rough idle or stalling.
Think of the motor is one giant air pump. The ECU tasks the emission components to pump more air so the cats/O2's heat up quicker; at the same time extra fuel is added adaptively to the calculated fuel quantity to run the motor smoothly. If you have a leak and/or the valves are faulty your motor will stumble/misfire due to the factors mentioned above.
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I will have a detailed look over this weekend to see if I find anything, if I can't find it then I will bring it to my mechanic
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Secondary air is only injected into the exhaust stream not through the engine so it will not make the engine run any differently. The engine module does not add more fuel when secondary air injection is active since there is no point as the extra air is only in the exhaust and not in the engine. Watch AFR when sai is active and you'll see its very lean. The only possible way for this system to affect driveability is if one of the diverted valves doesnt close completely and would create a vacuum leak but there would be other issues as well.
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It threw no codes
Your fuel pumps are failing if it threw no codes and stalled.
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Old 05-06-2016, 09:21 PM
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Pump

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Your fuel pumps are failing if it threw no codes and stalled.
Is there anyway I can check to see if the pumps are failing?
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Yes. I said start by monitoring fuel pressure.
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
Yes. I said start by monitoring fuel pressure.
What can I buy or do to monitor fuel pressure?
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You can buy a fuel pressure tester. OTC is a common quality tester.
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Originally Posted by Rocman8
You can buy a fuel pressure tester. OTC is a common quality tester.
Thanks I will look into buying this
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I run a very small Dyno tune square fuel pressure,AFR gauge, an Apexi memory boost gauge and instant read air temp gauge. To me these are the most important and really give you instant answers when having a problem and I can see every thing at a glance.Great to have in any E55.
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Originally Posted by SICAMG
I run a very small Dyno tune square fuel pressure,AFR gauge, an Apexi memory boost gauge and instant read air temp gauge. To me these are the most important and really give you instant answers when having a problem and I can see every thing at a glance.Great to have in any E55.
Yes I want all of those and I want to start monitoring IAT's
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Don't forget to monitor timing as well.
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Is there anything I can buy that I can just plug into obdII port so I can monitor everything at once?


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