Alignment Specs
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Alignment Specs
I was doing a little bit of digging around and could not find a thread where people were comparing Alignment Specs. I am going in for an alignment next week and I was wondering if any one could share their specs?
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
Last edited by AutobahnE63; Jul 21, 2016 at 09:26 AM.
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'99 and '05 E55 AMG
Stock (2003-2009 W211, code 489)
Front:
Camber: -1.4 +/-0.3 degrees
Caster: Not specified but usually is 10 to 11 degrees
Toe: 0.03 to 0.13 degrees (FWIW, I run 1/2 to 3/4 mm toe in on mine w/ 18" wheels)
Rear:
Camber: -1.7 degrees +/-0.5 degrees
Toe: 0.05 to 0.29 degrees (FWIW, I run 1 to 1.5 mm toe in w/ 18" wheels)
Now for the caveats:
-front camber is only adjustable by "eccentric bolts" that will give you +/- 0.3 degrees of camber change (and it also changes your caster if you only install one of the bolts on a side). Edit: front camber is adjustable if you install KMac adjustable bushings.
-rear camber is not adjustable; you can raise/lower your car using DAS Xentry, install KMac bushings, or UPD camber arms.
-front toe is easy to adjust; be sure to tie the steering wheel to the door handle and the gear shift leaver so it does not rotate while adjusting the end links.
-rear toe is a b***ch with the stock adjusters; I used to spend an hour crawling under and back out just trying to get the toe where I wanted it. I then installed a set of the UPD toe arms sold by Shardul. Using these, I can set the rear toe on both rear wheels of my car faster than I can set up and tear down the strings I use to set measurements. And I only had to go under the car to loosen and then tighten the lock nuts. Worth. Every. Penny.
All above refers to stock. And I discovered when my car started chewing through tires that my suspension was shot; new thrust and control arms with ball joints up front, new control arms and bushings in the rear.
Best of luck to you.
Front:
Camber: -1.4 +/-0.3 degrees
Caster: Not specified but usually is 10 to 11 degrees
Toe: 0.03 to 0.13 degrees (FWIW, I run 1/2 to 3/4 mm toe in on mine w/ 18" wheels)
Rear:
Camber: -1.7 degrees +/-0.5 degrees
Toe: 0.05 to 0.29 degrees (FWIW, I run 1 to 1.5 mm toe in w/ 18" wheels)
Now for the caveats:
-front camber is only adjustable by "eccentric bolts" that will give you +/- 0.3 degrees of camber change (and it also changes your caster if you only install one of the bolts on a side). Edit: front camber is adjustable if you install KMac adjustable bushings.
-rear camber is not adjustable; you can raise/lower your car using DAS Xentry, install KMac bushings, or UPD camber arms.
-front toe is easy to adjust; be sure to tie the steering wheel to the door handle and the gear shift leaver so it does not rotate while adjusting the end links.
-rear toe is a b***ch with the stock adjusters; I used to spend an hour crawling under and back out just trying to get the toe where I wanted it. I then installed a set of the UPD toe arms sold by Shardul. Using these, I can set the rear toe on both rear wheels of my car faster than I can set up and tear down the strings I use to set measurements. And I only had to go under the car to loosen and then tighten the lock nuts. Worth. Every. Penny.
All above refers to stock. And I discovered when my car started chewing through tires that my suspension was shot; new thrust and control arms with ball joints up front, new control arms and bushings in the rear.
Best of luck to you.
Last edited by bbirdwell; Jul 21, 2016 at 03:30 PM.
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If you search you will find a thread titled something like Handeling (its miss spelt).
There some really good info in there. More so mods you can do like the upper ball joint and crash bolts to pull these things closer to where they should be.
IMO mercedes was on drugs when they engineered the geometry in this car. Im yet to see one that has camber anywhere near where it should be (nearly always to much) and castor is always far to much at 10 to 11+ degrees.
There some really good info in there. More so mods you can do like the upper ball joint and crash bolts to pull these things closer to where they should be.
IMO mercedes was on drugs when they engineered the geometry in this car. Im yet to see one that has camber anywhere near where it should be (nearly always to much) and castor is always far to much at 10 to 11+ degrees.
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2007 E350 RWD SP1 (M211.056/E272.964)
Can some tell me what is the wheel alignment spec for my car please.
Here's my VIN WDBUF56X27B066886
Stock (2003-2009 W211, code 954 and 486)
Thanks,
Here's my VIN WDBUF56X27B066886
Stock (2003-2009 W211, code 954 and 486)
Thanks,
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Thinking about taking car for the alignment and would like to know the spec.
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2007 E350 RWD SP1 (M211.056/E272.964)
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As i mentioned before my Michelin AS/3 + was feathered and extreme noisy even though they are a lot left on the thread.
Is there something on the alignment read out should i be concerned?
Any suggestion and explanation will greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Sorry upload wrong picture.
Picture on Jan 21 was alignment with OE shock and michelin AS/3 + tire.
This is the one with Bilstein HD shocks and Continental tire.
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Good catch by HeissRod on the model difference!
Your "before" toe measurements show the driver side tire close to the maximum toe in so I would expect it to be feathered by the outside of the tire rolling under as you drive. The passenger-side toe was beyond the maximum toe in and that one should also have the outside edge feathered due to the outer edge rolling under as you drive.
How many miles do you have on your car? It's amazing how many E-class owners need to rebuild the front suspension around 100,000 miles...ball joints are the weakest (but the car is quite heavy) and bushings are right behind.
Your "before" toe measurements show the driver side tire close to the maximum toe in so I would expect it to be feathered by the outside of the tire rolling under as you drive. The passenger-side toe was beyond the maximum toe in and that one should also have the outside edge feathered due to the outer edge rolling under as you drive.
How many miles do you have on your car? It's amazing how many E-class owners need to rebuild the front suspension around 100,000 miles...ball joints are the weakest (but the car is quite heavy) and bushings are right behind.
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Good catch by HeissRod on the model difference!
Your "before" toe measurements show the driver side tire close to the maximum toe in so I would expect it to be feathered by the outside of the tire rolling under as you drive. The passenger-side toe was beyond the maximum toe in and that one should also have the outside edge feathered due to the outer edge rolling under as you drive.
How many miles do you have on your car? It's amazing how many E-class owners need to rebuild the front suspension around 100,000 miles...ball joints are the weakest (but the car is quite heavy) and bushings are right behind.
Your "before" toe measurements show the driver side tire close to the maximum toe in so I would expect it to be feathered by the outside of the tire rolling under as you drive. The passenger-side toe was beyond the maximum toe in and that one should also have the outside edge feathered due to the outer edge rolling under as you drive.
How many miles do you have on your car? It's amazing how many E-class owners need to rebuild the front suspension around 100,000 miles...ball joints are the weakest (but the car is quite heavy) and bushings are right behind.
So if you only mentioned about the toe setting that cause the tire feathered. I think that new alignment looks good correct?
I'm thinking about changing ball joints when i replaced new shocks at 91k miles, but my indy tech inspected ball joints and said it's still good.
What parts should i change to help/prevent this from happening again.
Low ball joints (2113300435) and control arm (2113304311/4411)? anything else?
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Also, the alignment specs posted earlier appear to be from a non-AMG. Here's the specs for the w211 AMG:
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Can some tell me what is the wheel alignment spec for my car please.
Here's my VIN WDBUF56X27B066886
Stock (2003-2009 W211, code 954 and 486)
Thanks,
Here's my VIN WDBUF56X27B066886
Stock (2003-2009 W211, code 954 and 486)
Thanks,
Where do I find the vehicle code at?
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2007 CLS 63 AMG W219. Before and After
I was doing a little bit of digging around and could not find a thread where people were comparing Alignment Specs. I am going in for an alignment next week and I was wondering if any one could share their specs?
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
Before
Before and After
After
Running 255 30r20 on front and 305 25r20 on rear. 20" rims.
Air Ride Suspension.
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07 CLS 63 AMG
2007 CLS 63 AMG W219. Before and After
I was doing a little bit of digging around and could not find a thread where people were comparing Alignment Specs. I am going in for an alignment next week and I was wondering if any one could share their specs?
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
I am used to fully adjustable suspension so I am unsure of what I can squeeze out of the car. I do track this beast from time to time so I would like to get more camber out of it and just a touch of toe in, in the front.
Before
Before and After
After
Running 255 30r20 on front and 305 25r20 on rear. 20" rims.
Air Ride Suspension
As you all know there is no camber adjustment in the rear. There is adjustment through Ride height with Star Diagnosis.
I tried the KMAC bushes and could not get them or a proper shop to install them. So I went back to stock. Have a set of Renntech rear Camber Bushes that I may put in the rear if I've been able to set the front properly. Will kNow soon enough after 2nd alignment.
In the mean time. The car is riding well. Intuitive and rides straight.
