Can anyone recommend brake pads and rotors?
02-26-2020, 02:48 AM
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hello Yuille, I have 2015 E63 and dealer quoted me $1180 for rear pads and rotors today. I feel that price is excessive and I am willing to put in the work myself. Can you tell me what you think of these rotors from autohausAZ?
https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/09A82211
I am uncertain due to the note that says "Rear ~ 360mm Diameter Cross-Drilled and Slotted Vented w/o AMG Ceramic Brakes"
I have to admit that I do not know what that "without AMG ceramic brakes" means. The calipers are painted red, does that mean these rotors are not for my model?
Thanks in advance!
https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/09A82211
I am uncertain due to the note that says "Rear ~ 360mm Diameter Cross-Drilled and Slotted Vented w/o AMG Ceramic Brakes"
I have to admit that I do not know what that "without AMG ceramic brakes" means. The calipers are painted red, does that mean these rotors are not for my model?
Thanks in advance!
02-26-2020, 03:43 AM
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02-26-2020, 08:12 AM
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E63_SauceGod,
You do not have the AMG Ceramic Brake option, as your stated that your calipers are Red, the Carbon Ceramic Brakes are an option for your vehicle but the calipers are gold and the rotors are very, very expensive to replace.
The ceramics have superior braking performance as compared to the steels that we have. And they are lighter and have a 40% greater overall rotor and pad life. The rear Brembo rotors from AutohausAZ are nice, and are the right part, but if you plan to keep this vehicle, I would purchase them from FCP Euro.
As they offer a lifetime replacement on all their parts, just send them back their old worn out used parts, and they will send you a new one. No questions ask. I would also change your brake pads to a ceramic, they mitigate brake noise and dust. The only drawback, is that they do not have that great initial bite that the OEM pads have. But you don't have to clean off the brake dust everyday.
I can go weeks without cleaning my wheels, although I don't.
You do not have the AMG Ceramic Brake option, as your stated that your calipers are Red, the Carbon Ceramic Brakes are an option for your vehicle but the calipers are gold and the rotors are very, very expensive to replace.
The ceramics have superior braking performance as compared to the steels that we have. And they are lighter and have a 40% greater overall rotor and pad life. The rear Brembo rotors from AutohausAZ are nice, and are the right part, but if you plan to keep this vehicle, I would purchase them from FCP Euro.
As they offer a lifetime replacement on all their parts, just send them back their old worn out used parts, and they will send you a new one. No questions ask. I would also change your brake pads to a ceramic, they mitigate brake noise and dust. The only drawback, is that they do not have that great initial bite that the OEM pads have. But you don't have to clean off the brake dust everyday.
I can go weeks without cleaning my wheels, although I don't.
02-26-2020, 12:17 PM
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E63_SauceGod,
You do not have the AMG Ceramic Brake option, as your stated that your calipers are Red, the Carbon Ceramic Brakes are an option for your vehicle but the calipers are gold and the rotors are very, very expensive to replace.
The ceramics have superior braking performance as compared to the steels that we have. And they are lighter and have a 40% greater overall rotor and pad life. The rear Brembo rotors from AutohausAZ are nice, and are the right part, but if you plan to keep this vehicle, I would purchase them from FCP Euro.
As they offer a lifetime replacement on all their parts, just send them back their old worn out used parts, and they will send you a new one. No questions ask. I would also change your brake pads to a ceramic, they mitigate brake noise and dust. The only drawback, is that they do not have that great initial bite that the OEM pads have. But you don't have to clean off the brake dust everyday. I can go weeks without cleaning my wheels, although I don't.
You do not have the AMG Ceramic Brake option, as your stated that your calipers are Red, the Carbon Ceramic Brakes are an option for your vehicle but the calipers are gold and the rotors are very, very expensive to replace.
The ceramics have superior braking performance as compared to the steels that we have. And they are lighter and have a 40% greater overall rotor and pad life. The rear Brembo rotors from AutohausAZ are nice, and are the right part, but if you plan to keep this vehicle, I would purchase them from FCP Euro.
As they offer a lifetime replacement on all their parts, just send them back their old worn out used parts, and they will send you a new one. No questions ask. I would also change your brake pads to a ceramic, they mitigate brake noise and dust. The only drawback, is that they do not have that great initial bite that the OEM pads have. But you don't have to clean off the brake dust everyday.
I can go weeks without cleaning my wheels, although I don't.
02-26-2020, 12:35 PM
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When I bought my E63 I didn't realize that the brakes were toast up front. When I saw the cost of the 2-pc Brembos I nearly regretted what I got myself into.
I ended up purchasing the one piece brakes from FCP Euro so I could use additional funds to do other upgrades to the car. The one piece rotors are heavy af, but they get the job done, I'm driving a safer car, and I saved quite a bit of cash. Now that I've done just about everything I want to the car, I will be doing the "upgrade" to the lighter OEM Brembo two-piece rotors next year when I do my brake service.
Save money when and where you can without sacrificing the incredible vehicles we have been fortunate to acquire. Enjoy it, save where you can, and keep it on the road for years to come.
I ended up purchasing the one piece brakes from FCP Euro so I could use additional funds to do other upgrades to the car. The one piece rotors are heavy af, but they get the job done, I'm driving a safer car, and I saved quite a bit of cash. Now that I've done just about everything I want to the car, I will be doing the "upgrade" to the lighter OEM Brembo two-piece rotors next year when I do my brake service.
Save money when and where you can without sacrificing the incredible vehicles we have been fortunate to acquire. Enjoy it, save where you can, and keep it on the road for years to come.
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02-26-2020, 02:41 PM
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02-27-2020, 01:18 AM
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But 500 clams for a battery? No thanks I can self serve that. 350 for eng air filters? Nah I'm good. 1200 rear brakes and pads? Nah bro I think I can get that done properly... Did same job on my infiniti g37s so hopefully this car isn't much more complicated.
So now I'm back down to 2400 which gets most of my 50k service done. Previous owner never did 30k tranny maintenance so I'll tackle that next month.
Anyone got any tips and tricks for rear rotor replacement on these beautiful beasties
02-27-2020, 08:42 AM
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I enjoy working on my car as well, but will take it to my boys when it's above my pay grade. I recommend doing your maintenance in steps, so that it's not so expensive. Engine Coolant Flush, Brake Fluid Flushes, Oil/Filter Service, along with Rear Differential are cheap. Tranny flush is around $400-450
As far as brakes, there pretty straight forward, and not difficult at all. But you'll need a Brake Pad/Piston compressor This is what I use, and it works great, besides it's cheap. That can be used for both the front and the rear calipers. There are plenty of videos on youtube about AMG brakes. I would also check your serpentine belt, idler pulleys and belt tensioner for excessive play. Maintenance doesn't need to cost and arm or a leg. Find yourself a reputable MB Independent Shop, and have them perform your big ticket items. You tackle the smaller jobs. Once all of your maintenance items are accomplished, then you just have to maintain it, and fix things as they break.
A good rule of thumb that I live by:
Engine Oil/Filter and Air Filters every year, I do mine every 6 months
Brake Flush every 2 yrs
Engine Coolant every 4 years
Transmission Flush every 4 yrs
Rear Differential every 4 yrs
I understand that you want to start with a clean slate, to ensure that everything has been addressed, and I don't blame you. Did you receive any maintenance records with the vehicle?
Because if it has, then you can move past that. Besides from having maintenance records, I also created a spreadsheet, where I document everything.
I hope that you have a pleasurable AMG owning experience.
I recommend doing your maintenance in steps, so that it's not so expensive. Engine Coolant Flush, Brake Fluid Flushes, Oil/Filter Service, along with Rear Differential are cheap. Tranny flush is around $400-450As far as brakes, there pretty straight forward, and not difficult at all. But you'll need a Brake Pad/Piston compressor This is what I use, and it works great, besides it's cheap. That can be used for both the front and the rear calipers. There are plenty of videos on youtube about AMG brakes. I would also check your serpentine belt, idler pulleys and belt tensioner for excessive play. Maintenance doesn't need to cost and arm or a leg. Find yourself a reputable MB Independent Shop, and have them perform your big ticket items. You tackle the smaller jobs. Once all of your maintenance items are accomplished, then you just have to maintain it, and fix things as they break.
A good rule of thumb that I live by:
Engine Oil/Filter and Air Filters every year, I do mine every 6 months
Brake Flush every 2 yrs
Engine Coolant every 4 years
Transmission Flush every 4 yrs
Rear Differential every 4 yrs
I understand that you want to start with a clean slate, to ensure that everything has been addressed, and I don't blame you. Did you receive any maintenance records with the vehicle?
Because if it has, then you can move past that. Besides from having maintenance records, I also created a spreadsheet, where I document everything.
I hope that you have a pleasurable AMG owning experience.
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02-27-2020, 09:16 AM
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When I bought my E63 I didn't realize that the brakes were toast up front. When I saw the cost of the 2-pc Brembos I nearly regretted what I got myself into.
I ended up purchasing the one piece brakes from FCP Euro so I could use additional funds to do other upgrades to the car. The one piece rotors are heavy af, but they get the job done, I'm driving a safer car, and I saved quite a bit of cash. Now that I've done just about everything I want to the car, I will be doing the "upgrade" to the lighter OEM Brembo two-piece rotors next year when I do my brake service.
Save money when and where you can without sacrificing the incredible vehicles we have been fortunate to acquire. Enjoy it, save where you can, and keep it on the road for years to come.
I ended up purchasing the one piece brakes from FCP Euro so I could use additional funds to do other upgrades to the car. The one piece rotors are heavy af, but they get the job done, I'm driving a safer car, and I saved quite a bit of cash. Now that I've done just about everything I want to the car, I will be doing the "upgrade" to the lighter OEM Brembo two-piece rotors next year when I do my brake service.
Save money when and where you can without sacrificing the incredible vehicles we have been fortunate to acquire. Enjoy it, save where you can, and keep it on the road for years to come.
From your response above, sounds like you were never able to experience the 2-piece rotors in good condition so you may not be able to make the comparison between the two but...
did you experience performance issues with 1-peice? Did they perform flawlessly/ as expected, have good bite, etc? Did they hold up well? Rust? Any negatives? What pads did you use?
Lastly, do you track the car or anything or just daily drive?
I ask because I have an E63 as well and have been debating. It’s hard for me to justify the price of the 2-piece over the 1piece if weight is the only real downside.
When I bought the car, the rotors were not super thick and I knew I would have to replace rotors next pad service. The pads are def not OEM as the dust is low however I am not sure what brand they are. I have never been blown away with the brake performance but it’s probably just because rotors being at minimum spec and unknown aftermarket pads that may just suck. The initial bite isn’t what I want it to be. I want to lightly tap the brakes and fly forward in my seat, ha!
thanks for the help!
02-27-2020, 09:39 AM
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Just curious, why would you return to the more expensive OE 2-peice rotors? Other than the obvious reasons; that’s what the car was built with and they are lighter.
From your response above, sounds like you were never able to experience the 2-piece rotors in good condition so you may not be able to make the comparison between the two but...
did you experience performance issues with 1-peice? Did they perform flawlessly/ as expected, have good bite, etc? Did they hold up well? Rust? Any negatives? What pads did you use?
Lastly, do you track the car or anything or just daily drive?
I ask because I have an E63 as well and have been debating. It’s hard for me to justify the price of the 2-piece over the 1piece if weight is the only real downside.
When I bought the car, the rotors were not super thick and I knew I would have to replace rotors next pad service. The pads are def not OEM as the dust is low however I am not sure what brand they are. I have never been blown away with the brake performance but it’s probably just because rotors being at minimum spec and unknown aftermarket pads that may just suck. The initial bite isn’t what I want it to be. I want to lightly tap the brakes and fly forward in my seat, ha!
thanks for the help!
From your response above, sounds like you were never able to experience the 2-piece rotors in good condition so you may not be able to make the comparison between the two but...
did you experience performance issues with 1-peice? Did they perform flawlessly/ as expected, have good bite, etc? Did they hold up well? Rust? Any negatives? What pads did you use?
Lastly, do you track the car or anything or just daily drive?
I ask because I have an E63 as well and have been debating. It’s hard for me to justify the price of the 2-piece over the 1piece if weight is the only real downside.
When I bought the car, the rotors were not super thick and I knew I would have to replace rotors next pad service. The pads are def not OEM as the dust is low however I am not sure what brand they are. I have never been blown away with the brake performance but it’s probably just because rotors being at minimum spec and unknown aftermarket pads that may just suck. The initial bite isn’t what I want it to be. I want to lightly tap the brakes and fly forward in my seat, ha!
thanks for the help!
And the only pad, that I've experienced that has that great initial bite has been the Semi-Metallic Pads.
The down side, is all the brake dust, and the increased rotor wear.
02-27-2020, 10:12 AM
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Lmao.... So. These cars were ONCE $100K cars. There is absolutely NO reason to spend $800 on a pair of rotors on a car that has a value of $10K today. A pair of rotors from RockAuto, such as the Brembos for $100 each, will suffice just fine!
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02-27-2020, 10:37 AM
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I can't believe that RockAuto is now selling the front 2-piece rotor for $336.99 ea......wow This has to be the cheapest price, that I've seen thus far. Seeing that the dealership sells them for $1150 ea.
02-27-2020, 11:20 AM
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there's a great DIY break service write-up here in the forum, someone looked like they did in a parking garage haha; look at that write-up; no special tools needed
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02-27-2020, 01:14 PM
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I enjoy working on my car as well, but will take it to my boys when it's above my pay grade. I recommend doing your maintenance in steps, so that it's not so expensive. Engine Coolant Flush, Brake Fluid Flushes, Oil/Filter Service, along with Rear Differential are cheap. Tranny flush is around $400-450
As far as brakes, there pretty straight forward, and not difficult at all. But you'll need a Brake Pad/Piston compressor This is what I use, and it works great, besides it's cheap. https://www.amazon.com/DASBET-Instal...J09Z9QZ1BJSYZV
That can be used for both the front and the rear calipers. There are plenty of videos on youtube about AMG brakes. I would also check your serpentine belt, idler pulleys and belt tensioner for excessive play. Maintenance doesn't need to cost and arm or a leg. Find yourself a reputable MB Independent Shop, and have them perform your big ticket items. You tackle the smaller jobs. Once all of your maintenance items are accomplished, then you just have to maintain it, and fix things as they break.
A good rule of thumb that I live by:
Engine Oil/Filter and Air Filters every year, I do mine every 6 months
Brake Flush every 2 yrs
Engine Coolant every 4 years
Transmission Flush every 4 yrs
Rear Differential every 4 yrs
I understand that you want to start with a clean slate, to ensure that everything has been addressed, and I don't blame you. Did you receive any maintenance records with the vehicle?
Because if it has, then you can move past that. Besides from having maintenance records, I also created a spreadsheet, where I document everything.
I hope that you have a pleasurable AMG owning experience.
I recommend doing your maintenance in steps, so that it's not so expensive. Engine Coolant Flush, Brake Fluid Flushes, Oil/Filter Service, along with Rear Differential are cheap. Tranny flush is around $400-450As far as brakes, there pretty straight forward, and not difficult at all. But you'll need a Brake Pad/Piston compressor This is what I use, and it works great, besides it's cheap. https://www.amazon.com/DASBET-Instal...J09Z9QZ1BJSYZV
That can be used for both the front and the rear calipers. There are plenty of videos on youtube about AMG brakes. I would also check your serpentine belt, idler pulleys and belt tensioner for excessive play. Maintenance doesn't need to cost and arm or a leg. Find yourself a reputable MB Independent Shop, and have them perform your big ticket items. You tackle the smaller jobs. Once all of your maintenance items are accomplished, then you just have to maintain it, and fix things as they break.
A good rule of thumb that I live by:
Engine Oil/Filter and Air Filters every year, I do mine every 6 months
Brake Flush every 2 yrs
Engine Coolant every 4 years
Transmission Flush every 4 yrs
Rear Differential every 4 yrs
I understand that you want to start with a clean slate, to ensure that everything has been addressed, and I don't blame you. Did you receive any maintenance records with the vehicle?
Because if it has, then you can move past that. Besides from having maintenance records, I also created a spreadsheet, where I document everything.
I hope that you have a pleasurable AMG owning experience.
02-27-2020, 01:16 PM
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02-27-2020, 01:55 PM
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Also you could ask the dealership, to run a VMI (Vehicle Maintenance Information) on your vehicle. That would get you off to a great start, as you could see all the service that were performed on your car, from various MB dealerships.
Although it doesn't help you, if services were performed at Indy shops, as Mercedes can't track that.
Although it doesn't help you, if services were performed at Indy shops, as Mercedes can't track that.
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02-27-2020, 10:39 PM
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You're right I never did experience the Brembos in good shape.
The single piece kit from FCP Euro are heavy as all hell, but they stop the car great and I haven't had any issue.
I used the TRW brakes 0054206620
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...054206620~trw/
I also got new Advan tires at the same time and it's been great.
I don't track the car, it's my daily when I do drive, and it's been great.
When I do the brakes again, I actually want the lighter rotational weight up front. I'd say these single piece rotors are at least 3x's heavier than the Brembos, so when it's time I will switch back and have a better comparison.
When I purchased my E63 a few months back I did a lot of maintenance and I couldn't justify the expense and the reviews were great.
The only downside is the weight, they stop great and are a great value. Lift at the legs if you're doing the work yourself lol.
The single piece kit from FCP Euro are heavy as all hell, but they stop the car great and I haven't had any issue.
I used the TRW brakes 0054206620
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...054206620~trw/
I also got new Advan tires at the same time and it's been great.
I don't track the car, it's my daily when I do drive, and it's been great.
When I do the brakes again, I actually want the lighter rotational weight up front. I'd say these single piece rotors are at least 3x's heavier than the Brembos, so when it's time I will switch back and have a better comparison.
When I purchased my E63 a few months back I did a lot of maintenance and I couldn't justify the expense and the reviews were great.
The only downside is the weight, they stop great and are a great value. Lift at the legs if you're doing the work yourself lol.
02-28-2020, 02:08 AM
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Also you could ask the dealership, to run a VMI (Vehicle Maintenance Information) on your vehicle. That would get you off to a great start, as you could see all the service that were performed on your car, from various MB dealerships.
Although it doesn't help you, if services were performed at Indy shops, as Mercedes can't track that.
Although it doesn't help you, if services were performed at Indy shops, as Mercedes can't track that.
04-24-2020, 03:03 AM
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"Akebono" ceramic pads are really nice for less dust, but it's kinda weak stopping bite compared to OEM's,
i always using "EBC" Blue or Yellow stuff pads, they are reliable & super power stopping than OEM's,
if you want less dust & better stopping than "Akebono's", go with "EBC" Red stuff,,
"EBC" makes pads application for all F&R "W211 E55/E63"..
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i always using "EBC" Blue or Yellow stuff pads, they are reliable & super power stopping than OEM's,
if you want less dust & better stopping than "Akebono's", go with "EBC" Red stuff,,
"EBC" makes pads application for all F&R "W211 E55/E63"..
-;-ZAYED-;-
04-24-2020, 04:50 PM
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You're right I never did experience the Brembos in good shape.
The single piece kit from FCP Euro are heavy as all hell, but they stop the car great and I haven't had any issue.
I used the TRW brakes 0054206620
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...054206620~trw/
I also got new Advan tires at the same time and it's been great.
I don't track the car, it's my daily when I do drive, and it's been great.
When I do the brakes again, I actually want the lighter rotational weight up front. I'd say these single piece rotors are at least 3x's heavier than the Brembos, so when it's time I will switch back and have a better comparison.
When I purchased my E63 a few months back I did a lot of maintenance and I couldn't justify the expense and the reviews were great.
The only downside is the weight, they stop great and are a great value. Lift at the legs if you're doing the work yourself lol.
The single piece kit from FCP Euro are heavy as all hell, but they stop the car great and I haven't had any issue.
I used the TRW brakes 0054206620
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-trw-part...054206620~trw/
I also got new Advan tires at the same time and it's been great.
I don't track the car, it's my daily when I do drive, and it's been great.
When I do the brakes again, I actually want the lighter rotational weight up front. I'd say these single piece rotors are at least 3x's heavier than the Brembos, so when it's time I will switch back and have a better comparison.
When I purchased my E63 a few months back I did a lot of maintenance and I couldn't justify the expense and the reviews were great.
The only downside is the weight, they stop great and are a great value. Lift at the legs if you're doing the work yourself lol.
Rob.
04-24-2020, 04:53 PM
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I actually just canned the two piece rotors the other day and after these one piece rotors finish their life I will be going back to the two piece to see what OEM was like.
But all things being equal these one piece rotors have been great so far, I would recommend them to anyone needing to save some cash when refurbishing a new to them E63.
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reverse image searchemail checkerport checker pay the price for factory MB parts. Any recommendations for "value" aka cheap, but good, pads and rotors? There have been no modifications made to this car -- it is factory original.
He does all my work on the side, usually for no labor as well. He rents from me and gets extremely cheap rent for this area, so it works out.
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05-15-2020, 07:31 AM
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I think it's a bit heavier than 7lbs... but by no means is it more than 15.
I actually just canned the two piece rotors the other day and after these one piece rotors finish their life I will be going back to the two piece to see what OEM was like.
But all things being equal these one piece rotors have been great so far, I would recommend them to anyone needing to save some cash when refurbishing a new to them E63.
I actually just canned the two piece rotors the other day and after these one piece rotors finish their life I will be going back to the two piece to see what OEM was like.
But all things being equal these one piece rotors have been great so far, I would recommend them to anyone needing to save some cash when refurbishing a new to them E63.
But I went with carbon ceramic pads, for the dust. 😁
03-31-2021, 12:00 AM
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The two-piece OEM rotors can be had for cheap, you just need to spend sometime searching for them. I got a complete front set from eBay $700 in 2017. And they are the OEM Brembo’s with the correct part numbers. Also RockAuto has them now.
But I went with carbon ceramic pads, for the dust. 😁
But I went with carbon ceramic pads, for the dust. 😁
What pads did you go with?
