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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Who wants a Full exhaust Headers and all for $3600

This is for a W211 E55. I have a shop in So cal that can make custom mid length Headers, a 3" Catted H-pipe with magnaflow high flow cats, and a 3" magnaflow Catback for $3600, with or without a resonator(which reduces noise) with 4 oval tips ...maybe even less if I can get more people to join in. All items will be mandrel bent, which means that no matter what the angle of the turn is A 3" pipe will always be 3"s around. Email me for a picture of the tip.

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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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anybody? I think if I can get 10 or more people, we can get them for around 3K each.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Nobody on this forum ever replies to anything...thats pretty weak. You guys should check out the terminator forum @ svtperformance.com or the Turbo/GT2 forum @ 6speedonline.com to see how a forums really run.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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I don't think it's weak.

I think the mentality is just a little different here. Not everyone on these boards is looking to make the beast more beastly.

Many bought the e55 for the performance it already has and are happy with it.

I myself did opt for the Renntech upgrade, but that's probably all I'll ever do in regards to the engine.

However, you should continue to post ideas and suggestions. Maybe someone who is interested in your headers and cats deal just hasn't read the forum yet.

I remember you said you wanted to meet. If you want to meet up, I'll be in the area today. Send me a PM if you do.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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Any dyno numbers for your pipes? Sounds like a great system from the description...

I don't really want any more noise from my car...I bought it for a relatively quite, stealthy daily driver...

I like sound too...but I save that for F-cars on the weekend
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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no dyno #'s...its not even on my car yet. I am trying to get this shop to come down on their price by getting more people to join in.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by dgussin1
Nobody on this forum ever replies to anything...thats pretty weak. You guys should check out the terminator forum @ svtperformance.com or the Turbo/GT2 forum @ 6speedonline.com to see how a forums really run.
How many of these systems do you expect to sell after making comments like that?
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by E55 KEV
How many of these systems do you expect to sell after making comments like that?
I am not trying to sell anything...I am trying to get more people involved so I can negioate a lower price.

My statement is true, however. There have been 293 looks on this thread and only 3 posts. People here aren't very helpful...I remember when I first posted
here I asked for some help with the snorkle mod, and 1 person responded, and couldn't help me. I am trying to share among this community of enthusiasts the knowledge that I receive regarding anything that may be benificial to them or their vehicle.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by dgussin1
...I remember when I first posted
here I asked for some help with the snorkle mod, and 1 person responded,
Damn!, "snorkle mod"!? What the hell is that? No wonder you only got 1 response sound like something for a deep sea diver!

Hey Bro, good luck with the exhaust upgrade.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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dgussin1,
I just saw your thread. I would be interested but I would need to know a few details first.
1) What will the projected power changes. I say changes; not necessarily increases because some exhaust changes hurt low end power. I have had several conversations with some tuners regarding exhaust mods and they are having trouble coming-up with an exhaust that does not kill low end in the w211.
2) How difficult will it be to wedge in the engine compartment. There is very little room to work.

If these answers are good, I would like to purchase.

Let me know
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by dgussin1
Nobody on this forum ever replies to anything...thats pretty weak. You guys should check out 6speedonline.com to see how a forums really run
dgussin1: t-bone is correct.
If you look at the average E55 owner you'll find he or she is usually in a very different group from Cobra or Viper enthusiasts (just to use 2 random examples).
You won't find lots of 18-25 year olds painting flames on their E55's or hanging chrome everywhere.

Most people buy E55's because they're ALREADY modded, and they don't want to hassle with doing it themselves, voiding their warranties and all the questionable quality issues which go with aftermarketing.

There are always exceptions. But in general, that's the way I see the E55 market.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Depending on the quality, I may be interested in the headers.
I've done a fair bit of research and came to the conclusion that apart from upgrading to 100 cell race cats I don't see any improvements coming from replacing the exhaust system.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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dgussin1,
I just saw your thread. I would be interested but I would need to know a few details first.
1) What will the projected power changes. I say changes; not necessarily increases because some exhaust changes hurt low end power. I have had several conversations with some tuners regarding exhaust mods and they are having trouble coming-up with an exhaust that does not kill low end in the w211.
2) How difficult will it be to wedge in the engine compartment. There is very little room to work.

If these answers are good, I would like to purchase.

Let me know
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1. We are expecting an increase all throught the powerband.
2. He is going to built a one off for my car, unless I can come up with a few people that want the system. Currently I am the only one, and I might not even get the entire package.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Depending on the quality, I may be interested in the headers.
I've done a fair bit of research and came to the conclusion that apart from upgrading to 100 cell race cats I don't see any improvements coming from replacing the exhaust system.
My guy says that the mufflers are the most restrictive part of the exhaust. I have no doubt that this man has the ability to make any exhaust product a person can desire.Here is a link to some pictures of exhausts and headers that he has made, click on the gallery and go to headers.
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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Any idea on the cost of headers alone? Then I can set the car up with a couple of glasspacks I have leftover from my old 442.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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"I have had several conversations with some tuners regarding exhaust mods and they are having trouble coming-up with an exhaust that does not kill low end in the w211."

You just have to make sure your primary tubes are not too big. A positive displacement blower will work better with little to no restriction. A set of tri-Y's will really get the low and mid range power up. Keep the exhaust velocity high and everything will be OK.

I have a guy that can build headers for around $1,500 to $2,000. He's been building a headers and dragsters from the ground up for around 30 years and maybe even longer than that. He built a custom set of headers for my SEC and I picked-up over 40 rwhp and 25 rwtq with a very good increase in all rpm ranges. You would need around 6 people to get the cost within the $1,500 to $2,000 range. The headers would be JetHot coated for that price too. He would do a one off set for around $2,500 to $3,000.

Here's a pic of a set he made for me. They are very high quality.

http://www.benzworld.org/gallery/pics/W126_57082.JPG

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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 01:31 AM
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This is the problem i see wit hthis....

It seems that you are requesting to see if people are interested more so that you can get your system at a cheaper price. Because you have not been able to garner the required interest, you "might not get the entire package".

Personally, I am not purchasing anything without seeing cold hard numbers or having previously worked with the guy to know they will work on it ot make sure its RIGHT. Now that doesnt help you bc you want to save money on your set, and not be the only guinea pig and provide us numbers....so we are all at an impasse.

If i were you, id push teh guy ot give u a discount if u are used as a model car that would show off the gains.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by ThemisN
This is the problem i see wit hthis....

It seems that you are requesting to see if people are interested more so that you can get your system at a cheaper price. Because you have not been able to garner the required interest, you "might not get the entire package".

Personally, I am not purchasing anything without seeing cold hard numbers or having previously worked with the guy to know they will work on it ot make sure its RIGHT. Now that doesnt help you bc you want to save money on your set, and not be the only guinea pig and provide us numbers....so we are all at an impasse.

If i were you, id push teh guy ot give u a discount if u are used as a model car that would show off the gains.
I agree with you to an extent...but somebody needs to be a test pig. I am gauging interest to, yes, get my cost down. And also to share my findings with you all. A one off set of headers is 1800. I suppose if I could get 5+ people, we could get the headers for 1300 or so.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Well, make your intentions known. Dont just get pissy when youd dont get the response you wanted, like some little girl who didnt get what she wanted from her daddy.
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Originally posted by dgussin1
My guy says that the mufflers are the most restrictive part of the exhaust. I have no doubt that this man has the ability to make any exhaust product a person can desire.Here is a link to some pictures of exhausts and headers that he has made, click on the gallery and go to headers.
The mufflers are all straight through, so he is wrong. The only gains you will get are marginal <10hp with much greater volume. The E55 exhaust note volume is about right IMO.
However, the factory headers suck big time and I could see a 30+hp improvement from their replacement alone.

Talk to some people who HAVE played with the exhaust systems ie Renntech and they will tell you the same thing.
I'm not try to diss you, I've just been down this path before.
I did this mod on the W210 E55 because the car needed the extra noise and as a bonus saw some reasonable power gains.

Organise some decent headers, that you don't have to pull the motor to install at a reasonable price and I'll be there with bells on.
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"A one off set of headers is 1800. I suppose if I could get 5+ people, we could get the headers for 1300 or so."

Wow, that price came down quickly!
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Originally posted by BlownV8
"A one off set of headers is 1800. I suppose if I could get 5+ people, we could get the headers for 1300 or so."

Wow, that price came down quickly!
the $3600 price is for the entire exhaust including a H pipe with 2 high flow cats, a catback system with 2 mufflers, a resonator(optional), and mid-length headers. $1800 is just for the one-off headers.
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Old Apr 9, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by stephens
did this mod on the W210 E55 because the car needed the extra noise and as a bonus saw some reasonable power gains.

Organise some decent headers, that you don't have to pull the motor to install at a reasonable price and I'll be there with bells on.
Stephens,

Can you elaborate what you did to your previous W210 E55 and how much gain you got? Thanks

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Custom headers, pre cats and mid muffler removed.
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Organise some decent headers, that you don't have to pull the motor to install at a reasonable price and I'll be there with bells on. [/B][/QUOTE]

I too would buy correct flow headers that I can install without engine disassembly.
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