REAR DIFF
#27
MBWorld Fanatic!
I thought the diffs came blank and you had to transfer your own ring gear, keeping the ratio the same. Am I missing something here?
#28
Super Member
I guess it is possible and convenient to change ring gear ratios if/when you install an LSD, but gear ratios are completely unrelated to the LSD internals itself.
Let's make it clear for everybody going forward:
- LSD aftermarket (and factory options) consist of spider-gear replacing devices
- The input side of an LSD is a ring-gear mounting surface where the factory ratio ring-gear is mounted
- The output side of an LSD are two female spline drive cavities where factory axles slide into
- The device itself generally represents a conical shape tapering away from the ring gear
Last edited by jumph4x; 07-09-2018 at 12:56 PM.
#29
Super Member
Yeah after reading some diys i came to the same conclusion. It was quitw apparent when i saw them swappin the gear ring over and the part # and ratio was engraved on the gear hehe
#30
Super Member
Thanks for helping me so far,with a lsd install looming next week ive got another question!
Ive been reading through old threads, people speculate that upping the ratio to 282/306 is counter productive in modified, higher hp m113ks. From what i understand changing ratios is considered the 'poor mans supercharger' and as such itll just introduce traction problems and i assune lower final drive for higher gears/speed? With 500 odd whp on dynojet would this be a recommended upgrade?
Ive been reading through old threads, people speculate that upping the ratio to 282/306 is counter productive in modified, higher hp m113ks. From what i understand changing ratios is considered the 'poor mans supercharger' and as such itll just introduce traction problems and i assune lower final drive for higher gears/speed? With 500 odd whp on dynojet would this be a recommended upgrade?
#32
In the end it’s just about the top speed because you will run into the rev. limiter. If you’re in a country with the ridiculous speed limit of 65-75 mph who cares about the top speed? It’s not like you’ll ever reach it anyways
#33
Super Member
Lol its 60mph here but i got a radar..
i think ill just ask the diff shop who im planning to install if they can easily/cheaply source the gear. If its a hassle ill just stick with stock.
i think ill just ask the diff shop who im planning to install if they can easily/cheaply source the gear. If its a hassle ill just stick with stock.
#41
Junior Member
Identify HAG215
Dear all,
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
#42
Dear all,
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
#43
Junior Member
I am normally not active on facebook. So, no. But if there is an answer to this question there, I‘d appreciate if you pointed me to it.
#44
Someone with the exact same car, same reason and same story just asked that question a few days ago. I don’t look it up as you can’t find anything on this stupid platform but I can help you with your project. Send me a PM later or tomorrow to remind me.
#45
Super Member
Dear all,
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
#46
MBWorld Fanatic!
#47
Junior Member
Dear all,
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
this may sound like a stupid question, and I hope to know the answer, but would like to make really sure! I am new to the W211 platform, so please excuse if this has already been discussed.
Yes, I did search other threads!
How do I make sure whether my E55 has a HAG 215?
MY car is early 2004, still has 280 blower, was delivered in Dec 2013, but when I lie under the car and check the drive shafts, I cannot see any bolts. So as this is an early 2004 MY, it should have the old style bolted axle shafts, right? But I see no bolts. Is is safe to assume I have the HAG215 and new style splined axles?
Is there no difference to the diff housing / casting?
I ask this, because I already have a Wavetrac LSD and would like to understand what other parts I need for the installation of the LSD.
Is there a good reference thread about this somewhere?
Best regards,
Tadek
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#48
Junior Member
Awesome! That is what I thought. Just got concerned when someone said early 2004 cars had HAG210.
Thanks!
Is there a good / preferred source for new bearings etc. as an alternative to Daimler / MB?
Thanks!
Is there a good / preferred source for new bearings etc. as an alternative to Daimler / MB?
#49
Super Member