CharlyE500

Hi guys,
Got this msg this morning. I guess the only thing could be is SBC malfunction or brake light switch.
Which msg you get for SBC malfunction ? and which msg you get for brake light switch ?

Thanks !

Racin_fool

As long as it is not the pump unit, its still going to show a white message like that. If it were a brake lamp switch you might actually get an ESP warning message but I'm not certain on that because those switches didnt fail too often.

rapidoxidation

Take a look at your brake pad thickness.

Strigoi

That'd be my guess.

On my W210 E55 when the brake light switch went bad I also lost ESP. I highly doubt that's the issue.

oneslow55

CharlyE500

Turn out to be SBC ... total cost $1600 labor and parts. Is it right price ?

tw2

For full SBC pump replacement and labour? Probably.

CharlyE500

yes.... full SBC replacement.... is $1600 make sense ?

tw2

Yes not too bad especially if that is a dealer price. I seem to remember the unit is about $900 on pelican parts or fcpeuro. If it includes brake fluid flush even better. It can be done yourself without STAR but I would rather pay someone to do it with STAR using the proper procedure.

CharlyE500

It's independent mechanic who used to work in Brabus NewPort... He did brake fluid flush so I guess it was OK. I don't mind pay a bit more to make sure my car is in good hand.
Didn't expect SBC fail so fast. Someone once told me that the electronic components only support up to 600,000 times of braking and then will lock it. Hope this will last other 10 years.

tw2

I have heard 600,000 also 300,000 and a couple of other numbers. Should be good for a very long time. My understanding is that it is simply a safety thing, replacement before anything can fail from wear even though it might have been fine for several more years.

Jaybejay

Check out the recall. Warranty extended to 10 years... Taking mine in to fletcher tomorrow.

https://www.mbusa.com/vcm/MB/Digital...2005110001.pdf

tw2

I thought they were all out of warranty now?

tlambert

Those letters were dated 2005 and 2006.

CharlyE500

I did not contact the dealer since my car is 2006 and it's 2017 December so my guess is out of warranty.
If your car is 2004 then forget the warranty.

kC10

Mercedes Benz USA extended the SBC warranty for 25 years FROM the year of your car, it would have been warrantied brother. I have a 2004 E55 and I received my letter in the mail.

tw2

The warranty was only recently introduced.

CharlyE500

Yup... If this happen after 2019 I would save $1600 ! At least now I know if happen to my CLS.

rapidoxidation

You may be able to be compensated for the SBC repair that you've had to put out money for.

Pmarino

Mine was covered 100% Plus I got a software upgrade with SBC Hold feature. I don't use it

kC10

Good stuff brother👍 We are fortunate with MercUSA, Europe Mercedes does not Warranty the SBC period.