Weistec Supercharger Group Buy! M113K

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Feb 21, 2018 | 01:31 PM
  #1  


In addition to the M156 Kits we are also offering the E55 Weistec kit at group guy pricing! This pricing will be valid through March 30! Don't Miss out! We need a minimum of 5 orders to keep this pricing (M156 Group Buy orders count towards this and vice versa)

+178 WHEEL HORSEPOWER, +173 WHEEL TORQUE
Group Buy Price: $7,499! $7,000!
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Tuner Kit Available! No tune, No injectors
$6250!
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Packages available!
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Feb 21, 2018 | 03:50 PM
  #2  
I wish I had a spare $8,000 laying around.
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Feb 21, 2018 | 06:04 PM
  #3  
Not to be disrespectful or sound ungrateful but thats 500 more than the cost i got from Raceiq with the 82mm tb upgrade when i was looking into this. He emailed me a cost of 7k for everything including tune and injectors. If we could get this in the 5 to 6k range id be all over it lol.
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Feb 21, 2018 | 06:23 PM
  #4  
Got E63? $10-15k is way beyond my abilities.
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Feb 21, 2018 | 07:28 PM
  #5  
I would love to have one. I have, however, modified multiple cars extensively in the past. Not sure I want to do so now. Always results in a net loss of investment. But the tax cuts just gave me a few thousand dollars a year of relief. So...do I put the money to the storage shed and greenhouse I've wanted or do I put it towards a down payment on this?

The price point is a bit above where I feel comfortable. Plus, I then need to purchase and install a Quaife or Wavetrac limited slip differential, then do the rear sub-frame bolt mod, and then I'm going to want headers and high-flow exhaust and so on ad infinitum...

I recommend you come up with a package deal such as Flyin' Miata does for their offerings. Check out their website for an idea of what they offer.

I really feel like I need garlic and a silver bullet and a cross with which to fight off this Satanic temptation!
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Feb 21, 2018 | 07:48 PM
  #6  
Quote: I wish I had a spare $8,000 laying around.
Yep, I feel like the people who would actually be in the market would just buy it, not wait for black Friday or a group buy.
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Feb 22, 2018 | 09:11 AM
  #7  
Quote: I would love to have one. I have, however, modified multiple cars extensively in the past. Not sure I want to do so now. Always results in a net loss of investment. But the tax cuts just gave me a few thousand dollars a year of relief. So...do I put the money to the storage shed and greenhouse I've wanted or do I put it towards a down payment on this?

The price point is a bit above where I feel comfortable. Plus, I then need to purchase and install a Quaife or Wavetrac limited slip differential, then do the rear sub-frame bolt mod, and then I'm going to want headers and high-flow exhaust and so on ad infinitum...

I recommend you come up with a package deal such as Flyin' Miata does for their offerings. Check out their website for an idea of what they offer.

I really feel like I need garlic and a silver bullet and a cross with which to fight off this Satanic temptation!

Greenhouse and shed sounds cool! Build a custom garage 😁
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Feb 22, 2018 | 11:13 AM
  #8  
Quote: Got E63? $10-15k is way beyond my abilities.
Yes we do!
https://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w...group-buy.html
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Feb 22, 2018 | 11:15 AM
  #9  
Quote: I would love to have one. I have, however, modified multiple cars extensively in the past. Not sure I want to do so now. Always results in a net loss of investment. But the tax cuts just gave me a few thousand dollars a year of relief. So...do I put the money to the storage shed and greenhouse I've wanted or do I put it towards a down payment on this?

The price point is a bit above where I feel comfortable. Plus, I then need to purchase and install a Quaife or Wavetrac limited slip differential, then do the rear sub-frame bolt mod, and then I'm going to want headers and high-flow exhaust and so on ad infinitum...

I recommend you come up with a package deal such as Flyin' Miata does for their offerings. Check out their website for an idea of what they offer.

I really feel like I need garlic and a silver bullet and a cross with which to fight off this Satanic temptation!
We can gladly put a package together with longtube headers and wavetrac differential!
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Feb 22, 2018 | 06:53 PM
  #10  
I wonder how the Weistec blower unit fares in long term durability over the stock IHI unit? The Weistec has no clutch and is permanently engaged. I have seen 2 E55's with over 300K miles on stock blower?
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Feb 22, 2018 | 10:19 PM
  #11  
Quote: We can gladly put a package together with longtube headers and wavetrac differential!
You are the kind of folks my mother warned me about...

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Feb 22, 2018 | 10:24 PM
  #12  
Quote: You are the kind of folks my mother warned me about...

was about to say something similar lol.

id say go for the greenhouse and this!
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Feb 22, 2018 | 10:24 PM
  #13  
Quote: I wonder how the Weistec blower unit fares in long term durability over the stock IHI unit? The Weistec has no clutch and is permanently engaged. I have seen 2 E55's with over 300K miles on stock blower?
I agree with you. If the bearings front and rear are in an oil bath, I can see them lasting for as long as the engine with regular oil changes. With the non-sealed greased bearings in the stock supercharger, I see potential problems with continuous engagement of the supercharger.

FWIW, I once had a supercharger seize on me in Kansas; I cut off the belt and drove the car back 900 miles to Austin, Texas, for repair by the company that manufactured the supercharger. Not fun; power *way* down but I was able to drive the car. Do not want to experience that again. Thus my reluctance.
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Feb 23, 2018 | 01:32 PM
  #14  
Quote: I agree with you. If the bearings front and rear are in an oil bath, I can see them lasting for as long as the engine with regular oil changes. With the non-sealed greased bearings in the stock supercharger, I see potential problems with continuous engagement of the supercharger.

FWIW, I once had a supercharger seize on me in Kansas; I cut off the belt and drove the car back 900 miles to Austin, Texas, for repair by the company that manufactured the supercharger. Not fun; power *way* down but I was able to drive the car. Do not want to experience that again. Thus my reluctance.
The supercharger Weistec uses is commonly used on factory made cars by ford and dodge, They are extremely reliable and long lasting.
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Feb 23, 2018 | 04:23 PM
  #15  
The problem with this SC isn't reliability, durability etc., its a solid piece of kit; the real problem lies in the E55 platforms' inability to keep this thing cool. Even with meth/water inj, bigger HE, split cooling with trunk tank, and/or even, dare I say, a KC, I have doubts as to whether or not IAT's will be kept in check. Perhaps with some corn, bigger lines, fuel pumps, and injectors, coupled with other cooling mods, would that be enough to keep IAT's down on a 1/4-1/2 mi, let alone the mile?
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Feb 23, 2018 | 04:59 PM
  #16  
Quote: The problem with this SC isn't reliability, durability etc., its a solid piece of kit; the real problem lies in the E55 platforms' inability to keep this thing cool. Even with meth/water inj, bigger HE, split cooling with trunk tank, and/or even, dare I say, a KC, I have doubts as to whether or not IAT's will be kept in check. Perhaps with some corn, bigger lines, fuel pumps, and injectors, coupled with other cooling mods, would that be enough to keep IAT's down on a 1/4-1/2 mi, let alone the mile?
That was a problem with the gen 2 whipple they used. They switched over to the new gen 3 whipple which has been completely redesigned from the rotors, different coating, and a few other things. I have a buddy that just slapped on a new gen 3 whipple weistec blower with a 180 crank pulley with a 67mm supercharger pulley on top and a 82mm tb. He's around 19psi with long tubes, larger heat exchanger, and trunk tank. He was seeing 25F over ambient during cruising. Not many know the whipple reads IAT2s vs IAT1s like the stock blower. He's in Florida too. He did a pull from 1900 rpm to 6200. Here's how it was was on his log with rpm to IATs:

1963 he saw 122F
2078-2992 he saw 118.4F
3000-5308 he saw 122F
5400-6202 he saw 132.8

I can't imagine how much lower the temps would be with 15-16psi instead of 19psi. The mustang guys are seeing similar result and more boost with less pulley needed. So the blower doesn't need to be spun as hard which in return creates less heat. This gen 3 has in my view fixed our cooling issue with supporting mods.

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Feb 23, 2018 | 05:08 PM
  #17  
More in depth info about the gen 3 whipple

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...arger.1147214/

If the link doesn't work, here is what they wrote:

Whipple Superchargers, known for years of innovation, have now developed the new Gen 3 Whipple 2.9L supercharger that features both updated rotor design and rotor housing to unleash even more power from your engine. The Gen 3 works with nearly all 2.9L Gen 1 and 2 applications and is a simple upper half swap. No tuning required, just more power by increased supercharger efficiency.

Gen 3 features all new 3/5 rotors that feature a new updated rotor profile and new advanced manufacturing methods, allowing more accurate and tighter tolerances along with increased efficiency. Each Gen 3 rotor also features a later generation robotically sprayed conformal rotor coating, allowing the rotor clearance to conform to the operating conditions and application. The Gen 3 also features upgraded double lip PTFE rotor seals for higher RPM, higher temp and higher pressure ratios.

The Gen 3 also features a new rotor housing with the new angled support ribs for a more aggressive appearance, along with revised port shape for increased rotor filling and decreased turbulence, resulting in increased overall supercharger efficiency. What does all this mean? More power, more power, more power while maintaining the same boost levels.

During extensive testing on multiple applications, both Whipple and 3rd party testing found gains from 30RWHP up to 150RWHP depending on blower speed and engine specifications. Standard pump gas applications can easily make another 30RWHP with no other changes. Because boost maintains, tuning is not required. Just bolt on and unleash the power of your stock application.

Each swap kit comes with all the necessary parts/hardware to swap the Gen 2 SC for the Gen 3. No cutting or grinding required.
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Feb 23, 2018 | 05:54 PM
  #18  
Quote: More in depth info about the gen 3 whipple

https://www.svtperformance.com/forum...arger.1147214/

If the link doesn't work, here is what they wrote:

Whipple Superchargers, known for years of innovation, have now developed the new Gen 3 Whipple 2.9L supercharger that features both updated rotor design and rotor housing to unleash even more power from your engine. The Gen 3 works with nearly all 2.9L Gen 1 and 2 applications and is a simple upper half swap. No tuning required, just more power by increased supercharger efficiency.

Gen 3 features all new 3/5 rotors that feature a new updated rotor profile and new advanced manufacturing methods, allowing more accurate and tighter tolerances along with increased efficiency. Each Gen 3 rotor also features a later generation robotically sprayed conformal rotor coating, allowing the rotor clearance to conform to the operating conditions and application. The Gen 3 also features upgraded double lip PTFE rotor seals for higher RPM, higher temp and higher pressure ratios.

The Gen 3 also features a new rotor housing with the new angled support ribs for a more aggressive appearance, along with revised port shape for increased rotor filling and decreased turbulence, resulting in increased overall supercharger efficiency. What does all this mean? More power, more power, more power while maintaining the same boost levels.

During extensive testing on multiple applications, both Whipple and 3rd party testing found gains from 30RWHP up to 150RWHP depending on blower speed and engine specifications. Standard pump gas applications can easily make another 30RWHP with no other changes. Because boost maintains, tuning is not required. Just bolt on and unleash the power of your stock application.

Each swap kit comes with all the necessary parts/hardware to swap the Gen 2 SC for the Gen 3. No cutting or grinding required.
so the new blower from weistec is a gen 3 then??
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Feb 23, 2018 | 06:01 PM
  #19  
Quote: so the new blower from weistec is a gen 3 then??
Yes
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Feb 23, 2018 | 07:47 PM
  #20  
Quote: Yes
thats quite cool i may have to look more into this haha. I thought the new intercooler that came with this weistec is suppose to be much better as well.
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Feb 23, 2018 | 10:43 PM
  #21  
Quote: The problem with this SC isn't reliability, durability etc., its a solid piece of kit; the real problem lies in the E55 platforms' inability to keep this thing cool. Even with meth/water inj, bigger HE, split cooling with trunk tank, and/or even, dare I say, a KC, I have doubts as to whether or not IAT's will be kept in check. Perhaps with some corn, bigger lines, fuel pumps, and injectors, coupled with other cooling mods, would that be enough to keep IAT's down on a 1/4-1/2 mi, let alone the mile?
It’s not the platform, it’s the design of the kit.
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Feb 24, 2018 | 05:17 AM
  #22  
They should of done the kit with the tvs blower
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Feb 24, 2018 | 11:55 AM
  #23  
Quote: The problem with this SC isn't reliability, durability etc., its a solid piece of kit; the real problem lies in the E55 platforms' inability to keep this thing cool. Even with meth/water inj, bigger HE, split cooling with trunk tank, and/or even, dare I say, a KC, I have doubts as to whether or not IAT's will be kept in check. Perhaps with some corn, bigger lines, fuel pumps, and injectors, coupled with other cooling mods, would that be enough to keep IAT's down on a 1/4-1/2 mi, let alone the mile?
Yes ,well said but the new kit floats more over the block and there have the intercooler sitting in above the cover too.So the new kits are way different then the older kit.
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Feb 25, 2018 | 04:15 PM
  #24  
Quote: The supercharger Weistec uses is commonly used on factory made cars by ford and dodge, They are extremely reliable and long lasting.
Really???
Please advise which factory Ford and Dodge cars use this supercharger.
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Feb 25, 2018 | 04:18 PM
  #25  
If it’s a magnason toyota used them for factory SC setups on the Tacoma. Recently toyota stopped offering a TRD magnason but they still offer the SC if you go to the source.

Here is a ford approved factory setup they offer:
https://performanceparts.ford.com/superchargers/
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