E55: Replacing stock resonator with x pipe, good idea?
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E55: Replacing stock resonator with x pipe, good idea?
Been searching and reading up on old threads regarding X-Pipe, didn’t see much with my same scenario. I have LTH (Chinese) stock exhaust and gonna replace stock resonator with XPipe, good idea? Any Pros and Cons or suggestion for alternative route (H pipe)?
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Here is what I have and I like the sound. Nice and quiet inside while normal driving and some sound on WOT. The way I see it is it nice to drive to dinner and then when I bust someones ***....they don’t know what just happened. I haven’t heard my car outside while someone else driving it so far but it’s not obnoxious....although my sons E is loud and I do like the sound.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
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Here is what I have and I like the sound. Nice and quiet inside while normal driving and some sound on WOT. The way I see it is it nice to drive to dinner and then when I bust someones ***....they don’t know what just happened. I haven’t heard my car outside while someone else driving it so far but it’s not obnoxious....although my sons E is loud and I do like the sound.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
If so, should I remove resonator? Go straight pipes to stock mufflers, would that be too loud, raspy, or/and drone?
My my sounds are as quiet with soft throttle but it roar when WOT. I like a bit more growl when cruising and WOT. Maybe some mod on mufflers.
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Here is what I have and I like the sound. Nice and quiet inside while normal driving and some sound on WOT. The way I see it is it nice to drive to dinner and then when I bust someones ***....they don’t know what just happened. I haven’t heard my car outside while someone else driving it so far but it’s not obnoxious....although my sons E is loud and I do like the sound.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
ARH LTH, catless (recently), ARH X pipe, stock resonator, stock E55 mufflers.
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Do you get any interior vibration with your LTH? My LTH is about two three weeks old, I did the self install and there are two spot where the pipe/tube (driver side) barely has 1/4” clearance and I feel vibrations when throttled. Gonna have exhaust guy check em and massage heat shield or underbody to get more clearance. Pls let me know if slight vibration is the norms. I don’t think so!
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Hahaha.....Thanks I’ve spent a lot of time cleaning the bottom up some. It looks even better now. Since those pics I polished from the resonator to mufflers and tips. I tried some on the X pipe but I started getting crazy then. This all started out as “ I’m going to clean the exhaust tips”. I had the exhaust system out removing the race cats and installing the test pipes.
BTW I’m not the guy that scraped the resonator. Lol.
BTW I’m not the guy that scraped the resonator. Lol.
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[QUOTE=tlambert;7642139]
you don’t play when it come to your car! That’s amazingly clean exhaust! Can’t imagine what your interior looks like or your entire car for that matter. Gonna have to check out your profile for some photos.
Hahaha.....Thanks I’ve spent a lot of time cleaning the bottom up some. It looks even better now. Since those pics I polished from the resonator to mufflers and tips. I tried some on the X pipe but I started getting crazy then. This all started out as “ I’m going to clean the exhaust tips”. I had the exhaust system out removing the race cats and installing the test pipes.
BTW I’m not the guy that scraped the resonator. Lol.
[/QUOTEBTW I’m not the guy that scraped the resonator. Lol.
you don’t play when it come to your car! That’s amazingly clean exhaust! Can’t imagine what your interior looks like or your entire car for that matter. Gonna have to check out your profile for some photos.
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Do you get any interior vibration with your LTH? My LTH is about two three weeks old, I did the self install and there are two spot where the pipe/tube (driver side) barely has 1/4” clearance and I feel vibrations when throttled. Gonna have exhaust guy check em and massage heat shield or underbody to get more clearance. Pls let me know if slight vibration is the norms. I don’t think so!
1/4 clearance. The only thing that can be done is massage the heat shield with a flat bar at the points where it is rubbing. You have to be careful because there are fuel lines and brake lines behind that shield near the frame. Look behind the shield you'll see them. Don't let some jackleg beat on the floor. Lol.
The ARH set up is nice but if they would have built the header 10mm lower at the collector this wouldn't be a problem.
The only real way to stop it from hitting the floor is to use these mounts which I haven't changed to yet. https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...on-mounts.html
The only problem I can see using these is IF the car is lowered, and mine is, it will be putting the header 10mm closer to the ground.
Thanks for the props on the car! I've been doing a lot of cleaning and detailing. I'll be updating my thread soon.
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I recently replaced engine mounts and trans mount. Yes only on WOT from a dig with traction control on cause it's biting hard. Traction control off, none cause it's blowing the rear tires off. Lol.
1/4 clearance. The only thing that can be done is massage the heat shield with a flat bar at the points where it is rubbing. You have to be careful because there are fuel lines and brake lines behind that shield near the frame. Look behind the shield you'll see them. Don't let some jackleg beat on the floor. Lol.
The ARH set up is nice but if they would have built the header 10mm lower at the collector this wouldn't be a problem.
The only real way to stop it from hitting the floor is to use these mounts which I haven't changed to yet. https://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/...on-mounts.html
The only problem I can see using these is IF the car is lowered, and mine is, it will be putting the header 10mm closer to the ground.
Thanks for the props on the car! I've been doing a lot of cleaning and detailing. I'll be updating my thread soon.
And thanks for letting me know that you too have some vibration; here I’ve been for two weeks beating on the installer every time I get a butt massage when WOT. at least I got rid of the knocking, that was nightmarious!!!
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Look in my profile. I have 2 albums. One is tlamberts E55 and the other is “posted photos” there are some pics there.
https://mbworld.org/g/user/349665
https://mbworld.org/g/user/349665
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Another option to mitigate the vibration and noise due to the header contacting the heat shield is to cut a piece of a "flexible silicone kitchen trivet" and adhere it to your heat shield. You will want one with "nubs" or "buttons" or "grooves" rather than a solid smooth piece of silicone. The header will contact the silicone pad first and the pad will deaden the noise and vibration. Worked wonders for me on a turbo Miata where the header downtube would contact the frame on hard right turns under throttle. Remember, if it is is stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
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Another option to mitigate the vibration and noise due to the header contacting the heat shield is to cut a piece of a "flexible silicone kitchen trivet" and adhere it to your heat shield. You will want one with "nubs" or "buttons" or "grooves" rather than a solid smooth piece of silicone. The header will contact the silicone pad first and the pad will deaden the noise and vibration. Worked wonders for me on a turbo Miata where the header downtube would contact the frame on hard right turns under throttle. Remember, if it is is stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
just got back from exhaust shop, we did some massaging but didn’t touch frame. We did adjust/rotated the right flange (barely had 1/8 clearance to shield) of the resonator for better clearance. Ride home was much better, smoother with minimal vibes unless you’re really really paying attention to it.
But the vibrations are soft and joyful reminders that you got the power to where you can and are laying down some whoop ***.
As for removing resonator, I decided to keep it on cuz I do have X-Pipe already. But the resonator had a slight crack so got it welded (knew something didn’t sound right to my untrained ears), now got smoother sounds as well, paid the fellas $40 plus $20 for their lunches.
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Look in my profile. I have 2 albums. One is tlamberts E55 and the other is “posted photos” there are some pics there.
https://mbworld.org/g/user/349665
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Another option to mitigate the vibration and noise due to the header contacting the heat shield is to cut a piece of a "flexible silicone kitchen trivet" and adhere it to your heat shield. You will want one with "nubs" or "buttons" or "grooves" rather than a solid smooth piece of silicone. The header will contact the silicone pad first and the pad will deaden the noise and vibration. Worked wonders for me on a turbo Miata where the header downtube would contact the frame on hard right turns under throttle. Remember, if it is is stupid but it works, it isn't stupid.
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You can get a silicone trivet high-heat resistant to around 600* F continuous; yours, as was mine, would only be intermittent. Since it is an excellent insulator, I just used regular silicone seal to glue a piece to the frame of my Miata. I could barely squeeze the silicone trivet between the header downpipe and frame but it did the trick to get rid of the horrid noise the exhaust would make when it contacted the frame.
Something like this:
https://www.thermoworks.com/TW-TRIVE...yABEgJQKvD_BwE
Something like this:
https://www.thermoworks.com/TW-TRIVE...yABEgJQKvD_BwE
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Photos looks Great, but image resolution in album for this site is smeary and doesn't gives overall clear presentation of images. Some of your photo I couldn't tell if you had the E63 front bumper or not. Here's one of my favorite picture of my ride, before I started Mods...I posted in my album and image weren't that great.
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You can get a silicone trivet high-heat resistant to around 600* F continuous; yours, as was mine, would only be intermittent. Since it is an excellent insulator, I just used regular silicone seal to glue a piece to the frame of my Miata. I could barely squeeze the silicone trivet between the header downpipe and frame but it did the trick to get rid of the horrid noise the exhaust would make when it contacted the frame.
Something like this:
https://www.thermoworks.com/TW-TRIVE...yABEgJQKvD_BwE
Something like this:
https://www.thermoworks.com/TW-TRIVE...yABEgJQKvD_BwE
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Have you looked at your exhaust? I think all the Chinese long tunes I know of already come with an X pipe that replaces the resonator
Just in case you bought it with the headers and haven't actually put eyes on them yourself or something.
Just in case you bought it with the headers and haven't actually put eyes on them yourself or something.
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confirmed, have XPipe and they been installed two weeks ago, I’m tweaking em up now. Gonna leave resonator on. Thanks!
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We do sell slightly lower engine and transmission mounts that resolve the headers touching the body of the car on throttle. They are shorter than brand new OEM engine mounts but most used mounts are collapsed to a certain extent. Let us know if you have any questions
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We do sell slightly lower engine and transmission mounts that resolve the headers touching the body of the car on throttle. They are shorter than brand new OEM engine mounts but most used mounts are collapsed to a certain extent. Let us know if you have any questions
thanks..