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Old 10-22-2019, 02:00 PM
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Car is currently at MB of Cherryhill. Waiting to hear what they are going to do about the fuel smell in and around the car.
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Is there a way to tell on the E55 if the work was previously done while under ownership of a prior owner?
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Yes, If it was done at a dealer.
Using the VIN they can do a VMI. Vehicle Mastery Inquriy.
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thanks. Any telltale signs that I can check for myself?
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Look at BBirdwell posts. He has some detailed thread/posts about the harness wiring that might give the answer. If the tech didn’t re-pin the harness there might be an adapter on the harness to the fuel pump that would be a sign.

I don’t remember all the details so check out his posts. He has payed it out pretty detailed.
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As above, take out the back seat squab and see if there is an adapter harness in there. It is about 1ft long and connects to the pump assembly on the right and there should be one for the left side too.
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If it has an adapter harness on the fuel pumps the last four digits on the fuel pump should be 00-00.
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Is that all they are going to do? Install a harness? What should I expect?
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Is that all they are going to do? Install a harness? What should I expect?
No they replace everything, the harness is all you will be able to tell just from external visual inspection.
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Is that all they are going to do? Install a harness? What should I expect?
The complete fuel tank assembly gets replaced. That's why it's an expensive repair if your car is not covered anymore.
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The complete fuel tank assembly gets replaced. That's why it's an expensive repair if your car is not covered anymore.
I only replaced the filter/pumps, and I did it myself (and was reimbursed). Was nothing wrong with my tank, and I really didn't want some grease monkey from the dealer effing up my entire car taking it out. So you don't have to replace the tank, but they will probably want to do the entire thing.
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I only replaced the filter/pumps, and I did it myself (and was reimbursed). Was nothing wrong with my tank, and I really didn't want some grease monkey from the dealer effing up my entire car taking it out. So you don't have to replace the tank, but they will probably want to do the entire thing.
They are doing everything. They will have my car till next Tuesday. Cant speak on the greasemonkey, they have the cleanest shop I have ever seen.
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Originally Posted by venomsE55
They are doing everything. They will have my car till next Tuesday. Cant speak on the greasemonkey, they have the cleanest shop I have ever seen.
I refer to all mechanic's as grease monkeys because 99% of them are incompetent, even at the dealer. Just make sure they put everything back together right. Would highly recommend getting the car up on a lift and taking a real good look around.
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Boy.....I sure hope I fit the 1% club. LOL
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Or just check your fuel pressure afterwards at both idle and under boost.
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Or just check your fuel pressure afterwards at both idle and under boost.
It's not about the pumps, but rather what they screw up in removing and replacing the tank. There's quite a bit to remove.
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It's not about the pumps, but rather what they screw up in removing and replacing the tank. There's quite a bit to remove.
If they mess up the wiring it will affect fuel pressure. If something doesn't seal it will smell. A lot of mechanics are actually good at their jobs.
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Fuel pumps 211-470-00-00 w/wo adapter harness 211-540-07-00

Amperage draw of second generation fuel pumps without adapter harness; one pump runs backwards resulting in low fuel pressure at full throttle and high rpms:


Amperage draw of second generation fuel pumps with adapter harness installed; both pumps running properly:

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It's not about the pumps, but rather what they screw up in removing and replacing the tank. There's quite a bit to remove.
Agreed that I much prefer the technicians only replace the pumps and filter and not drop the entire tank and associated plumbing. Dropping the tank sounds like a punishment job for one of the junior technicians who is still on a learning curve....
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<snip> A lot of mechanics are actually good at their jobs.
LOL! You obviously have not seen my mechanic skills!
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Originally Posted by equitiesguy
I refer to all mechanic's as grease monkeys because 99% of them are incompetent, even at the dealer. Just make sure they put everything back together right. Would highly recommend getting the car up on a lift and taking a real good look around.
Sounds like you've only dealt with ****ty mechanics. I work at a motorcycle dealership and can say that our 8 techs know what they're doing for the most part. One guy is getting old and struggles with the new stuff, but he gets to deal with all the old bikes that come in that no one else wants to touch.

The indy that I use, the owner's son worked at the local MB dealership and another close one for years. Some of those guys don't know what the **** they're doing according to him. At the indy though, they're on their game. My friend that works there is the only person that I trust to work on my cars. He's been wrenching there for over 20 years now. All work gets done on the side, even during business hours.

Saying that almost all mechanics are incompetent is a bit extreme.
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Sounds like you've only dealt with ****ty mechanics. I work at a motorcycle dealership and can say that our 8 techs know what they're doing for the most part. One guy is getting old and struggles with the new stuff, but he gets to deal with all the old bikes that come in that no one else wants to touch.

The indy that I use, the owner's son worked at the local MB dealership and another close one for years. Some of those guys don't know what the **** they're doing according to him. At the indy though, they're on their game. My friend that works there is the only person that I trust to work on my cars. He's been wrenching there for over 20 years now. All work gets done on the side, even during business hours.

Saying that almost all mechanics are incompetent is a bit extreme.
The problem with most people is they tend not to pay attention to how people work. If you inspected work after the fact like I do, you would probably change your mind. I could tell you a half dozen stories about Dealers working on my BMWs and Mercedes. I just find it easier to do the work myself, and not have to deal with the aftermath.
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I can tell you with certainty that most are just dart thrower's hoping for the best out come....from what I have seen.
I am not perfect and am a automatic transmission rebuilder by trade for many years. I can tell you for a fact that if I make a mistake, that transmission will have to come back out and that is the worst part . As a flat rate tech I have already been paid for the job so now will have to work for free to fix it again. My come backs are less than 1% per year do to being a fanatic when working on cars. I will even spray black paint over any bolts that where removed that show rust around them when reinstalled... so the goal is to never let the customer "see" where I have worked on there car......hard to do but worth it.
On the flip side mechanics like me who are flat rate are CONSTANTLY under the gun to work faster and faster on some very complicated vehicles that push the best of us to cut as many corners as possible.....and charge crazy hours to the customer. It's a crappy trade and you have to have some knowledge of your car when you bring it to the shop, and..... ask questions !!!!!
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LOL If you all think the auto repair industry is riddled with incompetency.... Health care is just as bad...if not worse
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LOL If you all think the auto repair industry is riddled with incompetency.... Health care is just as bad...if not worse
Don't get me started on healthcare.
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