M156 cam adjuster plates
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M156 cam adjuster plates
Just had new cam adjuster plates installed, due to noise at cold start with one adjuster. Purchased new plates and pins from 63motorsports.com and had bahnsport performance from East Bridgewater, Massachusetts do the install. Had one bad plate and replace all four, so now no worries for many more miles. Also had Bahnsport Performance replace my headbolts, install new lifters and fix a small oil leak. If anyone in the New England area needs help with their Mercedes, these are the guys to visit.
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I need to have my plates replaced (09 E63, P30, 108k miles). I want to have my plates cryo hardened before install. Will also install Black Series lifter cups and Black Series motor/tranny mounts.
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Reach out to 63motorsports or 63everything via Instagram, great to work with. Are you going to do the install yourself?
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You’d have to bare with me for asking but why cryo...
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Harder or Tougher? One common fear is that cryogenic treatment increases the tool’s hardness, which equates to brittleness. Not so, according to Bond.
“This process doesn’t make tooling harder,” Bond said. “In fact, some customers request that I raise the tool’s hardness, but I have to turn them away.” Because the process converts just the retained austenite to martensite, it transforms a maximum of 17 percent of the material. The hardness increases about the same amount, which equates to just 1 or 2 points on the Rockwell hardness scale,Bond said.
That said, misunderstandings are common.
“Many people equate this with a physics experiment,” Paulin said. “If you dip a flower into liquid nitrogen, it will freeze instantly, and it will be so brittle that a slight impact will cause it to shatter. People also confuse it with dropping an ice cube into a cup of coffee, which causes the ice cube to crack or split. That’s due to differential heating,” he said, describing a process thatapplies too much heat too suddenly. “We do the opposite of that. We cool the surface and the core, but slowly, keeping them in equilibrium. It imparts uniform residual stresses at the surface,” he said, resulting in a more durable tool.
The misconceptions aren’t unfounded, Paulin explained.
“Untempered martensite is very hard, and very brittle,” Paulin continued. “Subsequent draws at elevated temperatures for the right amount of time temper the material, imparting a toughness that increases its durability.”
“This process doesn’t make tooling harder,” Bond said. “In fact, some customers request that I raise the tool’s hardness, but I have to turn them away.” Because the process converts just the retained austenite to martensite, it transforms a maximum of 17 percent of the material. The hardness increases about the same amount, which equates to just 1 or 2 points on the Rockwell hardness scale,Bond said.
That said, misunderstandings are common.
“Many people equate this with a physics experiment,” Paulin said. “If you dip a flower into liquid nitrogen, it will freeze instantly, and it will be so brittle that a slight impact will cause it to shatter. People also confuse it with dropping an ice cube into a cup of coffee, which causes the ice cube to crack or split. That’s due to differential heating,” he said, describing a process thatapplies too much heat too suddenly. “We do the opposite of that. We cool the surface and the core, but slowly, keeping them in equilibrium. It imparts uniform residual stresses at the surface,” he said, resulting in a more durable tool.
The misconceptions aren’t unfounded, Paulin explained.
“Untempered martensite is very hard, and very brittle,” Paulin continued. “Subsequent draws at elevated temperatures for the right amount of time temper the material, imparting a toughness that increases its durability.”
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Prone to what kind of wear? mechanical wear? chipping wear? abrasive wear? impact resistance? radial wear?
And when it’s hard, what kind of hardness Rockwell hardness? Notch hardness? Brinnell? Microhardness? Viagra? Will it last 4 hours? Overnight? Call the doctor if it’s over 24 hours?
Just looking to speak the same language Rob. Thanks,
Jan
And when it’s hard, what kind of hardness Rockwell hardness? Notch hardness? Brinnell? Microhardness? Viagra? Will it last 4 hours? Overnight? Call the doctor if it’s over 24 hours?
Just looking to speak the same language Rob. Thanks,
Jan
Last edited by go team; 12-29-2020 at 12:09 AM.
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Cryo is more to ensure the tribological deviation of the alloy is a much smaller range, so instead of a spread of RC33-36; cryo will make the alloy consistent to say RC34-35. Increasing the RC by 1 or 2 points may be worth it, if you know what you’re talking about.
as an aside I remember testing the black series tappets and they did not have a large spread in properties. so whatever the alloy/coating on it is, it has definitely made that thing very consistent.
to the OP, Shawn I’m glad you got these in so fast ✌️and appreciate the shout out! I’ve put Bahnsport on the site! You guys did a great job!
Cheers!
Jan
Last edited by go team; 12-29-2020 at 12:15 AM.