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Old 05-18-2021, 11:13 AM
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AC suddenly went out, please help me trouble shoot this guys

OK so I have had the E55 for about a month, I'd be lying if I said everything has gone smoothly but that does not mean that I am not highly impressed by the car and have fallen in love with it.
The other day I was driving, faster than I realized and a guy pulled out in front of me very slowly on a single lane street. I slammed on the brakes(those brakes are amazing) came to a screeching stop, curbed the wheel to the right and avoided contact completely thank goodness. after a brief conversation the other driver that involved a few profanities I got back in my car and split ways, I had places to be and two girls in the car anyway, more important things at hand..(this is Miami on a Saturday night)

We carry on and one of the girls is talking about its hot in the car and im like "yea ur right it is is hot in here" but the ac was on. confused i start fiddling around with it and this thing starts blowing hot air at me while its on "MAX COOL" im like what the hell. so naturally i just press the 0 button and pop the windows, letting that lovely humid florida air seeep into the leather of my interior for the rest of the night. it was awesome.

all jokes aside I cant figure out why it just randomly went out. I tried resetting it using instructions on forums but that has done nothing. The AC was very cold before it went out so it makes me feel like its not like it just needs a recharge. any ideas anyone? where should I start? also I do have a couple codes, which I will include, one is regarding changing the purge valve which i already ordered so if someone recognizes a code for that, that is what its for.

Codes:
9464 - A32n1 (Blower Regulator)/ Undervoltage (if im not a complete idiot i believe this is the code having to do with the ac but I jjst don't know where to go from there.
P202B- 002 - Idle Speed Control Implausible - Short Circuit to ground or Open circuit
P202B - 064 - Idle Speed Control Implausible
P0507 - Idle air control system RPM higher than expected


Thanks for everyone who takes the time to read and maybe set me on the right path of getting my AC back cold again, its killin me in south florida I really cant even drive the car most days.

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@aguawaters Check the voltage and that it is properly being change of your secondary battery as it controls the HVAC system.
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how exactly do you go about doing that @machild sorry im still learning as I go. Is there a tool I buy? I already have a pretty good scan tool (Innova 5410), would that be able to achieve a reading through the Ecu or do i need some tool from autozone?
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Update. I got a ac recharge system from walmart just ton see if there was pressure coming. When hooked up absolutely no pressure read on the guage, this leads me to believe that the compressor is either out or there's a wire loose something i dont know but it is not the level of freon in the system that part is fine as i originally had expected, considering the ac was pretty cold before.

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First of all, the secondary battery under the hood has absolutely nothing to do with your AC system.

Start here:

Press and hold the left AUTO button on the AC control unit inside of the car for about 5 seconds, and it'll enter diagnostic mode
Press the left up and down arrows to cycle through the numbers. The diagnostics are below. Run the car with the AC on, and find out what #5 and #7/#8 are for starters.




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First of all, the secondary battery under the hood has absolutely nothing to do with your AC system.

Start here:

Press and hold the left AUTO button on the AC control unit inside of the car. Press the left up and down arrows to cycle through the numbers. The diagnostics are below. Run the car with the AC on, and find out what #5 and #7/#8 are for starters.

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i actually did do that too, I can only recall 8 though reporting as 50degress, will report back with the other two
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i actually did do that too, I can only recall 8 though reporting as 50degress, will report back with the other two
I fixed my photo above, but only after you replied. I pulled it from One Note and the website formatted it as an image for some reason.

Starting with the evap core, it should be around 1 degree if its working properly, and never 0. It can go up to 2-3 while at idle at a light. If it's not in this range, the car's not cooling, obviously, but depending on where it is it will tell you if your compressor is even on.

Your pressure in bars should be something around 8-12. It's been a long time and I don't remember exactly what that should be. If memory serves, around 12-14 bar when it's pulling the car down and maybe 7 bar once the car is cool.
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I fixed my photo above, but only after you replied. I pulled it from One Note and the website formatted it as an image for some reason.

Starting with the evap core, it should be around 1 degree if its working properly, and never 0. It can go up to 2-3 while at idle at a light. If it's not in this range, the car's not cooling, obviously, but depending on where it is it will tell you if your compressor is even on.

Your pressure in bars should be something around 8-12. It's been a long time and I don't remember exactly what that should be. If memory serves, around 12-14 bar when it's pulling the car down and maybe 7 bar once the car is cool.
these levels are super high so the compressor cant be on.

5. 43 c

7. 11

8. 46 c


so the question is, is the compressor bad or is not being turned on? i heard that if theres not enough freon it wont even go, but considering my ac was blowing pretty cold before, i dont know.
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these levels are super high so the compressor cant be on.

5. 43 c

7. 11

8. 46 c


so the question is, is the compressor bad or is not being turned on? i heard that if theres not enough freon it wont even go, but considering my ac was blowing pretty cold before, i dont know.
How long was the car running before you pulled those numbers?
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How long was the car running before you pulled those numbers?
not long at all, but it was running earlier, i drove it around today with the windows down, so its not like the cars is completey cold bc i drove abkut 45 min ago but definitley not operating temp.
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not long at all, but it was running earlier, i drove it around today with the windows down, so its not like the cars is completey cold bc i drove abkut 45 min ago but definitley not operating temp.
You have to drive the car with the A/C on for about 5 minutes in order to find out what the numbers really are.
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i feel like at operating temp the ac just gets hotter as the engine gets hotter
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okay will report back ina few have somewhere to go anyway, should i be running the ac while doing this? on full blast i will probably roast before i get to my destination lol
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i feel like at operating temp the ac just gets hotter as the engine gets hotter
At the moment, you need to narrow down the field of issue and you won't know that unless the compressor has a chance to actually do its work. It's irrelevant how hot the air is coming out of the vents right now. If the air was cold, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
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At the moment, you need to narrow down the field of issue and you won't know that unless the compressor has a chance to actually do its work. It's irrelevant how hot the air is coming out of the vents right now. If the air was cold, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
After my drive with AC on Max Cool looking at the values now as we speak.

5. 43 c

7. 16

8. 67 c
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After my drive with AC on Max Cool looking at the values now as we speak.

5. 43 c

7. 16

8. 67 c
Looks like the compressor is on. If you hadn't rammed a curb with a potential for damage, this might be easier to diagnosis. It sounds to me like there's no coolant in the system, but that could be from damage to a line or it simply not having sufficient charge to start the compressor.

You're going to have to find someone with STAR to really dig into it.
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Looks like the compressor is on. If you hadn't rammed a curb with a potential for damage, this might be easier to diagnosis. It sounds to me like there's no coolant in the system, but that could be from damage to a line or it simply not having sufficient charge to start the compressor.

You're going to have to find someone with STAR to really dig into it.
when i say curbed my wheel i meant my steering wheel with my hands LOL. not my tire with a curb. I didn't ram anything or make contact with anything beside my tires and the pavement FYI.
based on those values how did you determine that the compressor is on?
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It was basically just a very hard stop, where i had to veer my front end right to miss the man completely. I onlu mention it because it was sometime very soon after that the AC went out. SO however much damage that could come from a very hard stop like that is the damage we are looking at
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UPDATE: after STAR diagnostic (not from dealership lol) my guy determined it was a bad ac compresssor. the quote abot 1k, only reason im gonna pay that is because I dont feel comfortable messin around with my hvac system


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