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3D printing: You could print this in multiple pieces and glue it together. That would allow it to be done on a much smaller (hobby level) printer and should reduce the cost considerably.
Machining:
The upper section will require very long tools to reach the necessary depth. At the very least you would need (in my opinion) need to increase the corner radius size to allow for larger diameter tooling. I have attached a pic with the the radii I am talking about marked (a couple of them anyway).
The inlet opening will require the entire piece to be stood on end to machine. This might not be that big of a deal in a 5 axis CNC, but will increase programming and machining costs. In a 3 axis machine it will require a much larger Z travel to pull that off.
If you are set on going "boxy" you might want to think about machining it is all flat sections and having it welded together. That would reduce material cost and machine run time quite a bit.
3D printing: You could print this in multiple pieces and glue it together. That would allow it to be done on a much smaller (hobby level) printer and should reduce the cost considerably.
Machining:
The upper section will require very long tools to reach the necessary depth. At the very least you would need (in my opinion) need to increase the corner radius size to allow for larger diameter tooling. I have attached a pic with the the radii I am talking about marked (a couple of them anyway).
The inlet opening will require the entire piece to be stood on end to machine. This might not be that big of a deal in a 5 axis CNC, but will increase programming and machining costs. In a 3 axis machine it will require a much larger Z travel to pull that off.
If you are set on going "boxy" you might want to think about machining it is all flat sections and having it welded together. That would reduce material cost and machine run time quite a bit.
Just some initial thoughts.....
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Would you like to take a look at the fusion files and get a full opinion? I am very young and have never done any fusion work besides this and don’t have any experience with getting things machined.
I also paid to get the base plate 3d printed. If that mocks up and fits right everything else should as well. Depends on if I need to reduce the size of the top hat.
You could do a sheet metal version from the base up. Would have to be tig welded but the feed inlet has to be cast or billet....big money. If you had a base welding one up with 1/16 sheet metal aluminum would be easy but again that inlet is the hard part.
Also I have noooo idea what you guys are talking about...step format , fusion solidworks ???!!! LOL this is great !!! Love it ! My wife says I can barely turn my phone on never mind this stuff !!
You could do a sheet metal version from the base up. Would have to be tig welded but the feed inlet has to be cast or billet....big money. If you had a base welding one up with 1/16 sheet metal aluminum would be easy but again that inlet is the hard part.
Also I have noooo idea what you guys are talking about...step format , fusion solidworks ???!!! LOL this is great !!! Love it ! My wife says I can barely turn my phone on never mind this stuff !!
Sheet metal might work for the sides, but since the top bolts on it needs to be thicker. It probably makes sense to machine that as well.
Castings for the inlet might not be economical for low volume production. Machining that out of billet (if the top section is done with welded plates) makes the most sense. If there is an existing inlet piece that could be welded on that would also work.
You could do a sheet metal version from the base up. Would have to be tig welded but the feed inlet has to be cast or billet....big money. If you had a base welding one up with 1/16 sheet metal aluminum would be easy but again that inlet is the hard part.
Also I have noooo idea what you guys are talking about...step format , fusion solidworks ???!!! LOL this is great !!! Love it ! My wife says I can barely turn my phone on never mind this stuff !!
Ahahah I feel you there, this is my first time ever working with fusion 360 and was bored so decided to design something "cool" for the car that would possibly work..
This is a screenshot of the underside showing the changes to the corner radii. There is also a slight change to the area behind the inlet (made to make machining easier if done from a billet)
Last edited by MJBelcher500; 11-22-2021 at 03:48 PM.
This is a screenshot of the underside showing the changes to the corner radii. There is also a slight change to the area behind the inlet (made to make machining easier if done from a billet)
Now once the 3d printed baseplate comes in and if it mocks and fits right it's on to figuring out where and how much it would be to get everything machined.
They are should work on both sides. Just logo placement would look better on the right side if it was flipped.
I copied your hole locations and x/y widths.
The holes are not symmetrical relative to the centerline of the tank.
Using the same tank on both sides would have one of them shifted towards the fender more than the other. It's not a lot, but there is a difference.
Draw a centerline down your model and then measure the distance between that and the 6mm hole centers.
I copied your hole locations and x/y widths.
The holes are not symmetrical relative to the centerline of the tank.
Using the same tank on both sides would have one of them shifted towards the fender more than the other. It's not a lot, but there is a difference.
Draw a centerline down your model and then measure the distance between that and the 6mm hole centers.
Not really sure how to do that, would it even be a big deal if it’s shifted a little bit?
Not really sure how to do that, would it even be a big deal if it’s shifted a little bit?
The way it is, one of them wouldn't line up correctly with the base plate.
You must have had a base drawing for the holes and walls of the tank before extruding it. Take that drawing and draw a construction line down the middle. Use the measure function to measure the center of the hole to the center of the tank.
I'm traveling early and have already packed up my computer. I'll try to take a screenshot of what I am describing if you aren't able to get it to work in Fusion.
The way it is, one of them wouldn't line up correctly with the base plate.
You must have had a base drawing for the holes and walls of the tank before extruding it. Take that drawing and draw a construction line down the middle. Use the measure function to measure the center of the hole to the center of the tank.
I'm traveling early and have already packed up my computer. I'll try to take a screenshot of what I am describing if you aren't able to get it to work in Fusion.
Im fairly positive I put the tank over both base plates and created holes for the right and left differently. It should line up?!
Im fairly positive I put the tank over both base plates and created holes for the right and left differently. It should line up?!
That's my point the left and right tanks are different. If you try putting the left tank over the right baseplate you should see what I'm talking about.
It's not a big deal. I'd just need to model the other tank. You just can't use the same tank on both sides unless I'm missing something.
That's my point the left and right tanks are different. If you try putting the left tank over the right baseplate you should see what I'm talking about.
It's not a big deal. I'd just need to model the other tank. You just can't use the same tank on both sides unless I'm missing something.
That's what I was going for, I put the same tank on both the left and right base plates and created holes over both using that tank so It should in theory work on both sides. Unless I did something wrong ahaah.
11-21-2021, 02:41 PM
