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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 03:03 AM
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55 AMG Air Intake Temperature (ait)?

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I am having a stock 55 amg. When cruising the ait is about 15deg C more than the ambient(10deg C). After short burst of wot the ait goes immeaditely to 50deg C. When start cruising again it goes to normal after after 10sec.
is that normal?
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Old Dec 28, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PARADOX_sf
Hi.
I am having a stock 55 amg. When cruising the ait is about 15deg C more than the ambient(10deg C). After short burst of wot the ait goes immeaditely to 50deg C. When start cruising again it goes to normal after after 10sec.
is that normal?
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Yes, IAT are generally about that amount over ambient temp. You will see a significant increase at WOT (50C is not unusual) and the temp should start coming back down soon after returning to cruise. If the temp does not start coming back down quickly at some point the intercooler water pump may have failed (does not sound like this is the case with your car).
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 12:24 PM
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Yes, IAT are generally about that amount over ambient temp. You will see a significant increase at WOT (50C is not unusual) and the temp should start coming back down soon after returning to cruise. If the temp does not start coming back down quickly at some point the intercooler water pump may have failed (does not sound like this is the case with your car).
Thank you about your answer.
Is it normal the ait to climb from 25 deg C to 50deg C in just a second or two? I was thinking that the supercharger need some time to build heat the intercooler at wot and it should take some more time to increase the temperature to this level.
It looks that the stock intercooler isn't very effective even with stock pulley.

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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PARADOX_sf
Thank you about your answer.
Is it normal the ait to climb from 25 deg C to 50deg C in just a second or two? I was thinking that the supercharger need some time to build heat the intercooler at wot and it should take some more time to increase the temperature to this level.
It looks that the stock intercooler isn't very effective even with stock pulley.
Temps rise immediately when at WOT. IF you ever have a situation where the intercooler pump is not working you will see temps that are double what you are seeing now in the same amount of time.
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Old Dec 29, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by PARADOX_sf
Thank you about your answer.
Is it normal the ait to climb from 25 deg C to 50deg C in just a second or two? I was thinking that the supercharger need some time to build heat the intercooler at wot and it should take some more time to increase the temperature to this level.
It looks that the stock intercooler isn't very effective even with stock pulley.
Yes he has correct. Remember the Kompressor and the chargecooler beneath it are mounted directly within the V of the engine a very hot location. The stock heat exchanger for the chargecooler is also relatively small and not really up to the job for long pulls.
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 12:56 PM
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The intercooler core is wrapped with thermal wrap and thermal reflective tape but i am not sure how much does it helps.
On C32 amg AIT is lower than on m113k
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The intercooler core is wrapped with thermal wrap and thermal reflective tape but i am not sure how much does it helps.
On C32 amg AIT is lower than on m113k
What exactly is wrapped in thermal wrap? Can you post a picture?

More power equals more heat. The C32 does not produce as much power. I would not expect the AIT to be as high as the M113K
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 04:31 AM
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Sorry i do not have photos. It is a normal thermal wrap for an exhaust system and a second layer was made with heat system thermal reflective foil.
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Originally Posted by PARADOX_sf
Sorry i do not have photos. It is a normal thermal wrap for an exhaust system and a second layer was made with heat system thermal reflective foil.
I do not understand what is being wrapped. Wrapping the cooling components would keep heat in, not out. Maybe I am picturing it incorrectly.
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MJBelcher500
I do not understand what is being wrapped. Wrapping the cooling components would keep heat in, not out. Maybe I am picturing it incorrectly.
The intercooler under the compressor is externally wrapped to keep the heat from the engine V away from it.

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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 06:56 AM
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Your ait can be cooled down by installing a Force Induction Interchillers for around $1500, my ait runs in 50s/60s Fahrenheit and recovers within seconds
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Old Jan 6, 2022 | 08:27 AM
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Your ait can be cooled down by installing a Force Induction Interchillers for around $1500, my ait runs in 50s/60s Fahrenheit and recovers within seconds
What about the air conditioner? is it still working? Can chiller and AC work together?
I have stock front heat exchanger connected to S600 heat exchanger in serries, pierburg CWA 150 high pressure water pump but still thinking that the intercooler after the supercharger is not sufficient.
What about single pass intercooler? Is it a good mod?

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Originally Posted by PARADOX_sf
What about the air conditioner? is it still working? Can chiller and AC work together?
I have stock front heat exchanger connected to S600 heat exchanger in serries, pierburg CWA 150 high pressure water pump but still thinking that the intercooler after the supercharger is not sufficient.
What about single pass intercooler? Is it a good mod?
interchillers works with ac, been running it for over 2 years with no issue. I’ve deleted both HE cause it’s not effective running them with chiller. I’m running a Stewart Emp pump and 5 gallons tank with single pass ic. You can run 2 gallons bay tank with it. Keep in mind that I ran Killer Chiller prior to FI Interchillers and find the FI is much more reliable as far as Freon leaks and better cooling.
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EMP pump sucks 25Amps, pierburg cwa 150 moves the same amount of water with 8 amps. It is much quieter and smaller. I already have EMP but it is too big.
Can you provide some photos of your setup?
I would not sacrifice the ac system to lower the ait.

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EMP pump sucks 25Amps, pierburg cwa 150 moves the same amount of water with 8 amps. It is much quieter and smaller. I already have EMP but it is too big.
Can you provide some photos of your setup?
I would not sacrifice the ac system to lower the ait.
my ac has no issue running Interchillers for over 2 years. Cabin air blows cold always.






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Thats cool
It is a must to have mod.
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