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W211 Fr. Brake rotor upgrade

Old May 19, 2022 | 01:24 AM
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W211 Fr. Brake rotor upgrade

Has anyone upgraded to the larger 390mm fr rotors off a cls
vs the stock 360mm e55

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Old May 19, 2022 | 02:09 AM
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I have done it on my E55.

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Old May 19, 2022 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by my67AMG
Has anyone upgraded to the larger 390mm fr rotors off a cls
vs the stock 360mm!!
I'm working on it now. There are two larger rotor options - 380mm and 390mm. The 2006 CLS55 had the 380mm option and the 2007+ CLS63 had the 390mm. I'm taking the low cost approach of adding a spacer between the caliper body and the stock 360mm mounting bracket. For the 380mm the spacer is 10mm thick and for the 390mm it is 15mm thick. Two spacers for each caliper and then longer bolts M12 x 1.5 x 90mm. You will need to make sure the caliper, once fitted for the larger rotor, will clear your wheels. The stock E55 18" wheels will not clear. Increasing the front braking capability without a similar increase at the rear will further shift an already strong bias to the front end.
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I've driven mine on track and the the stock rear brake with 390 front brakes is fine on the W211. The stock caliper is no good, since the pads don't dissipate heat well. My pads were cracked from use on the 360mm rotor. The contact area of the stock mini pads is just too little in my opinion. The 6 pot calipers have way superior pad design.
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Originally Posted by UncleBenz55
I've driven mine on track and the the stock rear brake with 390 front brakes is fine on the W211. The stock caliper is no good, since the pads don't dissipate heat well. My pads were cracked from use on the 360mm rotor. The contact area of the stock mini pads is just too little in my opinion. The 6 pot calipers have way superior pad design.
Would you upgrade the rear calipers with larger pistons and a 360mm over the stock 330mm rotor if you could?
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Old May 19, 2022 | 09:26 AM
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For now i feel no need to. If i were to find them for a good price, i wouldn't mind, i guess.
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Old May 19, 2022 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by machild
I'm working on it now. There are two larger rotor options - 380mm and 390mm. The 2006 CLS55 had the 380mm option and the 2007+ CLS63 had the 390mm. I'm taking the low cost approach of adding a spacer between the caliper body and the stock 360mm mounting bracket. For the 380mm the spacer is 10mm thick and for the 390mm it is 15mm thick. Two spacers for each caliper and then longer bolts M12 x 1.5 x 90mm. You will need to make sure the caliper, once fitted for the larger rotor, will clear your wheels. The stock E55 18" wheels will not clear. Increasing the front braking capability without a similar increase at the rear will further shift an already strong bias to the front end.
so the caliper bracket off a newer cls w/p30 pkg. Will not work!! Would think so....
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CLS63 uses a 6 piston caliper, not the 8 piston caliper the 55 uses. You'd need caliper and braket from the 63 with PP brakes.
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Originally Posted by my67AMG
so the caliper bracket off a newer cls w/p30 pkg. Will not work!! Would think so....
As stated the bracket from the 6 piston caliper will not fit on the 8 piston caliper. For the 8 piston a spacer is the overall best approach. For the 6 piston calipers from the 211/219 platforms, either the caliper used on the 360mm or 390mm rotor can be used. If you have the ones used on the 390mm then you are set to go. If you have the caliper from the 360mm rotor you have a couple of options: 1) use spacers, 2) try to find just the brackets as used on the calipers fitted to the 390mm rotors, and 3) find an aftermarket bracket that will work. I think the 6 piston calipers from the 212/218 platform can also be used (I belive that is what @UncleBenz55 used) with after market brackets to fit the 390mm rotors.

The bolt specs I mentioned in post #3 are for the first generation 6 piston calipers used on the 211/219 platforms. Those calipers have the largest piston sizes and highest total clamping force of the three options discussed here. In squared millimeters for the total clamping force for the three calipers:
8 piston 11,354 #pistons = 28mm, 32mm
6 piston 12,233 #pistons = 34, 36, 38 (7.7% more clamping force)
6 piston 11,379 #pistons = 32, 34, 38 (less than 1% more clamping force)

The clamping force are based on the piston sizes and the count of each piston in the caliper. The use of the caliper on a larger diameter rotor will also increase the braking forced due to the larger diameter of the rotor and the increased leverage that provides for the caliper.
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[QUOTE=UncleBenz55;8566305]I've driven mine on track and the the stock rear brake with 390 front brakes is fine on the W211. The stock caliper is no good, since the pads don't dissipate heat well. My pads were cracked from use on the 360mm rotor. The contact area of the stock mini pads is just too little in my opinion. The 6 pot calipers have way superior pad design.[/QUOTE
Have u tried hawk or i have heard the potterfield r even better
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No I use Brembo rotors and pads. I did however properly break them in.
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No I use Brembo rotors and pads. I did however properly break them in.
It' porterfield pads think have 3 different compounds,
Check it out..
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