zdkdeeier493

Take a look at the latest Motor Trend and what do you see? A huge picture of an M5 with the E55 peeking out from behind. Yes. Motortrend has finally reviewed the new M5 vs. the latest E55. The result? Lots of bashing towards the E55 and innumerable praise of the M5. Do I believe it? Yes, to a certain degree. Theres no doubt about the fact that it made me want to jump in a new M5 the first chance I get, but I really think it was more of a New vs. Old article. It highlights the M5's new technology and advancements over the E55, making the E obviously sound - inferior. Take a look and post what you think...

ATS

But keep looking.

I noticed that the 0-60 and the 1/4 mile time is faster with the E55 even though the specs on the M5 are better.

AMGfan

It doesn't matter to me anymore...I love the look and "inferior" driving dynamics of my E55...plus, I'm actually driving one, rather than drooling over the specs in a magazine.

I'm sure the M5 will be a great car...but I can't drive a magazine article.

Love what you got today because tomorrow is never a guarantee...

lorinserbenz

Car and Driver is always biased to BMW. The E55 is one of the best looking/performing cars on the road.
The new 5 series is flat out ugly, and the M5 is just a polished turd.

DRCrowder

don't forget that they say in the article that the E55:

1. has a FAR better interior
2. It is easier to go effortlessly fast in the E55

I didn't think it bashed the E55, none of us bought it to be able to handle like a Lotus Elise. The SMG and the "Lateral Ability" of the M5 were the source of most of the praise, that and the engine of course. It just solidified what we all already know:

1. The E55 is a "nicer" car with better amenities and style (subjective, I know)
2. They will be close in performance with the M5 having the upper-hand 120+
3. In the twisties we'll be left back faaaaar behind

DRCrowder

Those times for the M5 are Estimated

awiner

Yup... Estimated times. Who knows what they times really will be until they actually get to test one. I am sure the M5 will be a rocket and handle like it is on rails.

But....

It's still ugly.

zdkdeeier493

The review also bashes the E55 for "spinning the wheels when FLOORING IT out of a turn". Whatever idiot wrote that deserves to be fired. If you're going to bash the handling of the car at least find a respectable driver who knows how to exit a turn and review the car accordingly...

GTA23109a

Sounds like they never learned their lesson from the "M3 vs. Z06 vs. Boxter S" fiasco.

That M3 spent all article getting it's *** whipped up one side of the track and down the other by the Z06, but when it came down to the end, the MotorTrend BMW nuttswingers declared the M3 "winner" beacuse it had a back seat. WTF?? That ended my subscription (and a ****load of other people's as well from what I hear and read).


Anyways . . . MotorTrend is notoriously BMW-biased . . . don't think that will ever stop (at least while the BMW favors and $$$ are still rolling in).

DRCrowder

LoL you do have a valid point there....

Mattar

That’s hilarious never heard of that but what was the reviewer thinking off maybe a free M3 from BMW

skratch77

What % lock up does the e55s lsd have

reggid

don't think the e55 has an lsd

RossN

No LSD on E55 or CLS55, DC are you listening to your Customers here???

They should have at least mentioned that a new steering rack and possible Suspension recalibration is coming the E55's way. I am sure they are aware how that change has been made on the CLS55 and can most likely be made on the E55 as well, or can't they obtain that most journalistic type of information?

It's funny that if DC does make those changes on the E55, the US will get to drive with the new hardware before the M5 even is close to our shores...

And for the US driver, how many of us race from 100-150 mph? I keep reading how the BMW wins that contest, a useless fact in America. On the other hand, a stoplight race is a daily affair.

vraa

I can understand maybe no LSD on the E500 w. Sport Package. I can understand X not being on the non AMG cars.

But when we buy AMG cars, we expect exceptional performance. Not just a faster engine. We want the whole load, just as M cars get the entire deal.

Still, kicks *** that just with an extra engine, the M5 is recieving a big fist in the face.

RossN

At the very least DC, make the LSD a factory installed option, we are not asking for miracles. I guess the cost to certify the LSD in the US is the current road block?

Fist in face, very good way of putting it, all that V10 noise to 100 mph and it will still loose! :p

Nothing like the sound of a tuned V8.

RossN

Just curious, does anybody know if these magazines are getting the 0-60, 1/4 times with BMW Launch Control?

Is L/C something you can do every day at the stop light, or are you limited to the number of times you can use it like the M3?

vraa

Miracles smiracles. When the M3 has an option of a CSL type of vehicle, how come the C32 doesn't have anything. Is Mercedes' only option just to drop a bigger engine? We all saw how that worked out with the Americans vs. Japanese a few years back. Guess who won, the Japanese (at least in my eyes).

Mercedes can really turn their cars into real street rippers. They have the engines, they have the parts, they have the ability to make parts as well, go ahead AMG, take the initiative, we're right here to buy!

I think fist is almost an understatement. 516ft-lb torque is more like a fricken sledgehammer to the face. Especially that ugly face.


The times so far are still estimates, the M5 better be a full second faster then the E55, otherwise I think people will have wasted a good two years waiting.

RossN

No offense to those with Japanese decent but those headlights are so "Kabuki".

http://www.kangetsu.com/kabuki.gif

Mardeth

I hope you dont mean 0-60 times , even a fanboy like me doubts the new M5 could do 0-60 faster than an Enzo.

From 0-124mph it just short of a sec faster.

"Fist in face, very good way of putting it, all that V10 noise to 100 mph and it will still loose."

All that torque and still will loose 120mph+ and below 100mph the perofomance differences are so marginal its a competition between drivers... And the sound is the whole point

vraa

0-124 is useless. Unless it's a rolling start to around 100 because that's a real limit to what our sanity will allow us to go on public highways.

I actually was referring to 0-60 becaues I think that's where the majority of most races will be at.

Ah man, I feel sorry for BMW fans. Not only is their car just a margin faster (if..) it's also ugly.

RossN

The V10 sound is a good point, but just like an Integra I used to own so long ago, it is tiring day after day to rev the engine just to get the car to sound good and accelerate properly.

I am not saying the M5 will be slow at low rev's, just trying to make a small point that for me, lots of torque down low in the rev band is usually more safisfying in day to day driving. You get the immediate "punch in the back" without having to wind the motor up and risk every cop with his window rolled down looking your way.

Beowulf

http://www.rennteam.com/showflat.php...0&page=0#62564

Mardeth

100 is around my average on a highway, on smaller roads it is quite insane but far from doable if your driving a car that can handle ie. M5 and not E55. I dont know about your slowass highways but 124 is far from insanity on highways, not something I recommend doing daily thought...

I dont know what your smoking but expecting the M5 to beat the E55 by a second in 0 to 60 is just stupid (I know Im sugar coating but this is a moderated forum).

Frankly from 0 to anything is not really important, rolling starts are what matter to me and there the M5 shines and completely "owns" the E55 from what Ive seen. As always looks are subjective, subjective and once again subjective. I like it you dont, get over it. I dont ***** and moan about the CLS looks even thought I dont like it...

RossN

7 cars there, 2 crashed, 1 blew it's engine, repeated brake failures, 2 blown clutches, a marvel of engineering! I bet someone at BMW got fired that day.

I wonder how those drivers felt climbing into the car after the repeated brake failures? "Better take it easy boys, don't want to end up in the wall!"

Must have been the driver's fault??? All of them.