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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi...ishifq400.html


WOOOOOOW


This is enough to propel the FQ400 from 0-60 mph in an incredible 3.5 seconds and on to a top speed in excess of 175 mph. It is a performance that even some of the world’s most exotic supercars struggle to match. The £330,000 Porsche Carrera GT, for example, requires 3.9 seconds to sprint from 0-62 mph, while the ultra-exclusive Pagani Zonda needs 3.7 seconds. The BMW M3 – hitherto the benchmark ‘everyday supercar’ – takes 5.3 seconds to achieve the same feat.
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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http://www.fast-autos.net/mitsubishi...ishifq400.html


WOOOOOOW


This is enough to propel the FQ400 from 0-60 mph in an incredible 3.5 seconds and on to a top speed in excess of 175 mph. It is a performance that even some of the world’s most exotic supercars struggle to match. The £330,000 Porsche Carrera GT, for example, requires 3.9 seconds to sprint from 0-62 mph, while the ultra-exclusive Pagani Zonda needs 3.7 seconds. The BMW M3 – hitherto the benchmark ‘everyday supercar’ – takes 5.3 seconds to achieve the same feat.
85 grand for a MITSUBISHI ? BUAHAHA...

I'd rather be slower 0.5 seconds but roll in my 85 grand E55 :v

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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Interesting.. Wondering who the target market is for that car?
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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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I think you are being a bit presumptuous. Not everyone cares about the badge on their hood (as they shouldn't), they care about how it performs. I had nearly $100k in my old Supra, and it was just a measily Toyota - but boy was 1000hp & 30psi fun.

Many, many people in Japan are the same way... they have Nissans, Toyotas, Subarus, Hondas, Mitsubishis, etc with tens of thousands of dollars in them, well over the value of the car. Again, it's not all about the badge on the hood, and I think it's wrong to criticize a car just because of that.

I'd be more willing to criticize how a Carrera GT is being paced by a Mitsu for 1/4th the cost... I realize it's a Porsche, and it's a Carrera GT - but let's face it, it is supposed to be the icon of Porsche engineering... and Mitsubishi to take their $10,000 Lancer and turn it into a car capable of running with a Carrera GT should be commended.

Also, to say you'd rather be .5 seconds slower is only referring to straight line acceleration (where the E55 really shines)... around a race track we'd probably be talking minutes, not seconds... which is where this EVO would really shine.

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Old Dec 1, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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I was just joking man, But seriously would you pay such amout of money for the performance that you can gain with pretty much any car, with such amount of money... Maybe not every car would do 3.5 seconds to a 100 thanks to all wheel drive, But to tell you the truth i was seriously considering Subaru STI and i have ni problem driving cars without the badge or name, as long as they fast and fun to drive!
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 01:02 AM
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The FQ 400 will destroy a lot of cars on the road
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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sure 3.5 seconds is impressive

but ha, where are you gona get all that power? At the top of your rev range

If it didnt have 4WD, you wouldnt be able to get such an amazing launch

In any rolling acceleration test (which is how everyone drives), an E55 would beat this thing hands down, let alone the Carrera GT you're comparing it to

You can't possibly beleive that this Evo will beat the GT around a track by MINUTES... thats crazy.

That link posted only shows 0-100kph... i'd love to see 400m and 1km times as fantastic as that

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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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This is enough to propel the FQ400 from 0-60 mph in an incredible 3.5 seconds and on to a top speed in excess of 175 mph. It is a performance that even some of the world’s most exotic supercars struggle to match. The £330,000 Porsche Carrera GT, for example, requires 3.9 seconds to sprint from 0-62 mph, while the ultra-exclusive Pagani Zonda needs 3.7 seconds. The BMW M3 – hitherto the benchmark ‘everyday supercar’ – takes 5.3 seconds to achieve the same feat.

That information is wrong. In actual tests of the Porsche Carrera GT, I've seen 0-60 in 3.5 seconds and the 1/4 mile in 11.2 seconds. Heck a 996 TT will do 0-60 in under 4 seconds. I know Porsche officialy lists this as a 3.9 sec 0-60 mph but Porsche does not test like the auto mags test. The Porsche numbers can be met consistently without abusing the clutch or driveline and their numbers are always very conservative.
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Old Dec 2, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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I'd be interested to see what the rolling acceleration figures are - in the end, that's how most people "race" anyways on the street.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 11:12 PM
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1st off the fq-400 isnt available in NA here and never will be. All we get is the MR version (~290hp)
and yea, even clarkson proved last week it could keep up with a murcielago around there track. But thats only track fun. For over $75k, you get a plastic dashboard and the embarrasment of being seen in it. But joking aside, it must be serviced EVERY 4k miles and requires special oil because boosting 400hp out of a tiny 2.0 liter is pushing the envelope. It is really a race prepped car and really not suitable for daily driving.
I think its like comparing apples and oranges. Its really more of a tuner car with an aftermarket, factory supported, company in britain doing the work and selling in extremely limited numbers
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 11:46 PM
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But joking aside, it must be serviced EVERY 4k miles and requires special oil because boosting 400hp out of a tiny 2.0 liter is pushing the envelope. It is really a race prepped car and really not suitable for daily driving.
Uh, autostream, I don't know where you pull this information out of... but making 400hp out of the 4G63 (the engine in the EVO) is a walk in the park... you can make that in a stock EVO with just a full exhaust, boost controller, full intake, and tuning... They have 4G63s making 800hp my friend...

My Supra made 1,000hp out of a tiny 3.0 liter - full factory block top to bottom never touched. That, sir, is pushing the envelope. The most made on a factory Toyota Supra short block was my good friend (fellow Chicagoan) Mike Carlin who made aroudn 1,250bhp @ 42psi. The engine would never last at that level on the street, but it made it.

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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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Interestingly today, I saw what appears to be a brand new EVO VIII with no plates rolling here in Las Vegas. On the back of the car it had the EVO VIII emblem so I am not sure it was for real or not.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:26 AM
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Uh, autostream, I don't know where you pull this information out of... but making 400hp out of the 4G63 (the engine in the EVO) is a walk in the park... you can make that in a stock EVO with just a full exhaust, boost controller, full intake, and tuning... They have 4G63s making 800hp my friend...

My Supra made 1,000hp out of a tiny 3.0 liter - full factory block top to bottom never touched. That, sir, is pushing the envelope. The most made on a factory Toyota Supra short block was my good friend (fellow Chicagoan) Mike Carlin who made aroudn 1,250bhp @ 42psi. The engine would never last at that level on the street, but it made it.

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Couldnt have said it better my self Marcus. The 4G63 is a well established powerplant thats proven itself to be nearly bulletproof time and time again. The 4G63 is really just waking up at 400hp!

On another note, in terms of cars, EVERYTHING is more expensive in the UK. Making an Evo produce the same power here wouldnt cost anything near $85K. It wouldnt cost more than $50K to build an Evo that would one up the FQ-400.

And to all those who would then say "Idiot, you spent $50K on a car that resembles a cross between a rental car and a shopping cart", I would say the magic of the Evo is not in its looks, its in the fact that a well built Evo can waste nearly every car known to man on both straights and twisties and push the very limits of physics. Its a car that can take you to the edge of what current technology can offer in terms of what is physically possible in a car. Period.

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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I completely agree with Marcus and VelocitE55. For those who are so enamored with a vehicle soley for the name and put down other vehicles simply because they are not of the German "prestige," they are definitely missing out on true technical marvels of non-German cars and how much they contribute to pushing the envelope of automotive engineering.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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I completely agree with Marcus and VelocitE55. For those who are so enamored with a vehicle soley for the name and put down other vehicles simply because they are not of the German "prestige," they are definitely missing out on true technical marvels of non-German cars and how much they contribute to pushing the envelope of automotive engineering.


With that said, here's my lowly 13 year old hard top Supra twin turbo. One of only 325 made in this configuration.
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Originally Posted by Marcus Frost
Uh, autostream, I don't know where you pull this information out of... but making 400hp out of the 4G63 (the engine in the EVO) is a walk in the park... you can make that in a stock EVO with just a full exhaust, boost controller, full intake, and tuning... They have 4G63s making 800hp my friend...

My Supra made 1,000hp out of a tiny 3.0 liter - full factory block top to bottom never touched. That, sir, is pushing the envelope. The most made on a factory Toyota Supra short block was my good friend (fellow Chicagoan) Mike Carlin who made aroudn 1,250bhp @ 42psi. The engine would never last at that level on the street, but it made it.

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While I don't disagree with you, I also think it is an issue of being able to have that output consistently in a car that was meant to be raced. I'm sure there are 800 hp Evos out there, but I doubt they can endure the rigors of extended racing. Some cars can create an insane amount of power 1/4 mile at a time and otheres can create more moderate power but can do so over extended sessions. While I loved your Supra, I would have to imagine that it wouldn't have been ideal for someone who wanted a track car rather than a car for the dragstrip.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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With that said, here's my lowly 13 year old hard top Supra twin turbo. One of only 325 made in this configuration.
What happened to the roof of the house behind your SupraTT? Did the high boost compression on your SupraTT cause the collapse?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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What happened to the roof of the house behind your SupraTT? Did the high boost compression on your SupraTT cause the collapse?


It happened back in 1993 after my fourth and final dyno pull. We made it out just in time. To much boost I guess.
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I'm suprised by some of the posts here... I just sold my second Evo...this one was an '04 RS. The past two Evo's I've had have been tweaked to @ 300whp and were dead reliable and there are numerous Evo's on the road with over 450 whp that are reliable. If all you are is a pure poser and your car is an integral part of your self esteem then maybe an Evo would never be for you. If, however, you are an enthusiast you cannot help but appreciate it's scalpel like precision and extreme-limit handling that is matched by very very few road cars and no Mercedes that are brought stateside.

Regarding service requirements, in any turbo car I'd replace the oil every 2,500 miles. This to me does not seem excessive.

My fiance and I took the RS up to Va for Thanksgiving so I could enjoy the backroads while we were up there... if you've never had an Evo ballz out on some tight country back roads you're missing out

Some of the responses remind me the way some P guys react to the Z06 and more recently the new c6. They lament the chevy's interior or go on about guido's driving them etc., but they fail to acknowledge the merits of the car.

I guess I'm rambling, but for my $.02 the Evo is one of the best cars out for those that really appreciate driving.
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Was going to the mall tonight (wife sent me out to pick up XMAS gifts) and was at a light and I noticed next to me was a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (big wing and all). I was on my bluetooth and was not paying attention and the light turn green and I noticed that he jumped fast once the light changed which I always do when I have a open lane ahead from a stop. I stopped my conversation and hammered the beast and it flat out destroyed the Lancer. I am not sure if he understood that I was in a 500HP car.

It did not seem to be that fast. Maybe the driver did not realize what was next to him or he just gave up when he saw E55 & the AMG logo going bye.

Made picking up the gifts more fun
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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You've got a bluetooth connection in your E55? Tell me more - been waiting for a hookup that works in this car.
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Originally Posted by 04E55 AMG
Was going to the mall tonight (wife sent me out to pick up XMAS gifts) and was at a light and I noticed next to me was a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (big wing and all). I was on my bluetooth and was not paying attention and the light turn green and I noticed that he jumped fast once the light changed which I always do when I have a open lane ahead from a stop. I stopped my conversation and hammered the beast and it flat out destroyed the Lancer. I am not sure if he understood that I was in a 500HP car.

It did not seem to be that fast. Maybe the driver did not realize what was next to him or he just gave up when he saw E55 & the AMG logo going bye.

Made picking up the gifts more fun
Stock they only turn 13's at 100-105 in the 1/4... For under $3k they can hit high 11's or low 12's @115mph (basically what a stock e55 will run repeatedly off the showroom floor).
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While I don't disagree with you, I also think it is an issue of being able to have that output consistently in a car that was meant to be raced. I'm sure there are 800 hp Evos out there, but I doubt they can endure the rigors of extended racing. Some cars can create an insane amount of power 1/4 mile at a time and otheres can create more moderate power but can do so over extended sessions. While I loved your Supra, I would have to imagine that it wouldn't have been ideal for someone who wanted a track car rather than a car for the dragstrip.
You raise a very good point. My car in particular was built for the street, not the road course - and as such, the parameters and criteria are different. Realistically I could have taken it down to the 650hp-750hp range, a larguer aluminum radiator, additional oil cooler, and some bigger brakes that could disappate heat faster it would have done very well on a road course.

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Sounds like it was stock. Sorry, used the word bluetooth but it is my wireless JABRA earpiece that allows me to move around my car with the earpiece base attached to the phone. Works well when in the car or getting out for gas. No wires just my blue flashing earpiece.

Hard to imagine that we do not have this option and in a $30K Acura you do.
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