SGC

If you are implying that a stock E55 with K&N's and drag radials will not run 12.007 @117.34 or that I do not have a time slip to prove same, I suggest we make a wager. In fact, I welcome you to come to Florida to watch same. I cannot account for poor running modified cars, I can account for my car running 12.007.

saber

I am not implying anything. I don't think stock E55 run 12 flat or 11.8X period. It is my opinion based on my experience but only my opinion. If you run 12 flat (at a reputable track - no in car computers) on a consistent basis, more power to you. That is great, I would love to have car & driver find some of these E55s because it would be great having the article. My car has a full Kleemann stage 3 plus some other extras and runs some serious numbers but stock it performed like most others, a consistent 12.5. I actually will be in Miami for the boat show in Feb. and if you are close by I would love to watch a run or two.
Regards

SGC

When you are in Miami, contact me. In addition, I will scan my time slip tonight and e-mail it to you.

The car was run at Moroso which I believe to be a reputable track. As stated before, the only mods are K&Ns and drag radials, and 12.007 @117.34 happened, period. To give you an idea of the accuracy of the track, I ran 12.30s @115 with my stock 02 Z06 and 12.1- 12.2 @ 117-118 with an 99 Viper RT/10 I used to own.

That being said, I have no reason to bullsh*t about the numbers. I wish your modifications netted more improvement, since I was contemplating sending my car to RennTech.

saber

SGC,
I will contact you in Feb, thanks. Amazing in the Florida climate you can run those numbers. My stage one with Renntech netted 12.1 at 117 with the stock tires. I will not posting what I run now because I am involved in some street events but I am below 11.8.

SGC

Look forward to hearing from you in February.

SGC

Saber, trying to e-mail time slip; however, your profile states that you do not accept e-mail. If you provide your e-mail address, I will send time slip.

DerekFSU

Did you ever post your review of what you netted from the Kleeman stage 3? What are the numbers you are running now?

saber

I have not posted my new numbers because I am involved in some matches that will be resolved soon and I will post. My last official post was below. I say official because in these pictures you can see the time slip and a pic of the car with the numbers that match the slip. That is the way it should be done so you know the slip matches the car.

SGC

Saber feel free to post my E55 time slip that I forwarded to you. I failed to get the memo regarding the rules pertaining to documenting time slips and creating official posts. Next time I'll do a better job. A friend did video the 12.00 and 12.03 runs, I am in the process of trying to obtain same.

SGC

Saber -Don't take it too serious.

DerekFSU

Well until you can post your sub 11.8 times, can you give us a review of your Kleemann stage 3? I'd love someone elses opinion. What else are you running to get under 11.8 other than stage 3? LSD, drag radials?

Anyone ever use true slicks on this car?

Rev It Up

I have Kleemens stage 2, ECU, headers and pulley. I am getting 501HP and 560 Torque on the Dyno. Why are you only getting 470 and 506? Seems like something is wrong. Maybe something on the install? Dyno?

Anyhow, I am going to get the LSD and some PS2s and then get a track run in. I will post my results. I have more juice then you are showing, but probably nowhere near the driving experience. Wish me luck.

Also, I still don't get all this talk about the cooling. It seems that you would have to really be running the car hard before the engine heated up enough to start giving up its horses. All I know, is ever since I got the K2 installed I can feel the power no matter how much I jump on it.

DerekFSU

Dynos vary considerably from one to another, let alone if it's a dynojet versus a mustang. Don't forget that most E55's run around 12.5 in the 1/4 while there are others on this board who have run 12.1 and lower completely stock. You're dyno could be off, mine could be off, or your E55 could be one of the really fast one's straight off the lot.

Did you dyno or do any 1/4 mile runs before the runs? Without doing that, it's really tough to measure any mod gains IMO.

As for heat, all I know is that the more I cool my engine between runs (especially with ice), then the better my times. Before mods, cooling did not seem to play much or a role.

BklynBenz

off topic: derekfsu, are you a lawyer by any chance?

Rev It Up

I am checking with my installer to see if he has the dyno before the mod. If he does I will post it.

It is really interesting to hear that cooling only effected your times after the mods. However, I am eager to get to the track to see what you are talking about. Of course I am a rookie so I if the times are any good at all you know it is definitely the car that did it.

On the street the K2 mod makes my car feel like it always has a ton more available power. Either way I love the way the car responds and sounds with the K2. And for now it is certainly more then enough to make my daily commute a lot more fun.

Rev It Up

I sent the guy who installed my K2 your time slip to help see if he could solve some of the mystery here. He is also a race car driver so I figured he could make sense of all the numbers on the time slip you posted which was Greek to me. His reponse is below.

Response
Let me decipher for you the time slip:

R/T = Reaction Time measured in seconds. (How fast the driver reacts when the light turns green, the guy with the slip on the right of .484 must have been taking a coffee break when the light went green, the guy on the left had a .013 which is a very good score.
60' = 60 feet time measured in seconds.
330' = 330 feet measured in seconds.
1/8 = 1/8 of a mile measured in seconds
MPH = speed ain MPH at the 1/8 of a mile mark.
1000' = 1000 feet measured in seconds.
1/4 = 1/4 mile time measured in seconds
MPH = speed ain MPH at the 1/4 of a mile mark.

So as you can see, the guy on the right was .484 of second slow when he left the line, so theoretically if he was .484 of a second faster coming off the line he would have turned a 11.7 to 11.8 1/4 mile time.

Stephen04E55

the only problem with what you have just stated is that the clock on each lane is separate and the clock doesn't start until the car moves...not when the light turns green. So, as it has been stated many times, the reaction time has nothing to do with the elapsed time. You could sit on the line for 20 seconds and get the same e.t. as above.

Fikse

post your times here with the rest.... you can upload the slip as well...


http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Be...ag-Racing.html


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SGC

Done.

Thanks,

SGC

Rev It Up

I'm in.

Rev It Up

Did some checking and what you are saying is true at amateur events but at pro tracks ( Atco, English town) when the light turns green the clock starts.

Schiznick

Who ran 12.1 stock in an E55?

Fikse

the clock timing your reaction time starts a the green.... but your ET clock isn't started until you move past the beam...

DerekFSU

Nope, what made you think that? Have I insulted your mother or something?

DerekFSU

True. It don't mean nothin'.