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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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The 55 left on a flat bed today for the install. Dyno runs stock will happen Monday, then again once the work is complete. Hoping to get a few 1/4 mile runs for time done by the end of Jan. It should be a monster. The HPS intercooler is supposed to be more efficient and uses a better water pump than the W211's so hopefully heat soak won't be as much of an issue as it is with the stock 211's. Now if I can just keep my license long enough to enjoy it.
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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Alright!!! When the work is done, please post pics, before and after dyno!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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For sure, and I'm hoping to have some time slips to post by the end of January. A LSD may be in the works as well, it depends on how well it hooks up (or not).
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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First pull with no adaptive miles, stock filters, etc, etc, was 421 RWHP. Will have pics and charts to post very soon.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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What was your stock HP?
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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I don't have the charts yet, I just got the call with the "after" numbers. Stock 55 usually makes around 285 HP, so probably 125-135 HP gain at the wheels.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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First pull with no adaptive miles, stock filters, etc, etc, was 421 RWHP. Will have pics and charts to post very soon.
AWESOME!!!
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 01:19 AM
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When will they be done? Please send me an email of the charts. :p
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Fast55
I don't have the charts yet, I just got the call with the "after" numbers. Stock 55 usually makes around 285 HP, so probably 125-135 HP gain at the wheels.
So if you had to guess, what would crank output be?
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:42 AM
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oh man, hopefully I get my E55 this friday and if I do, you know i'll HPS it! Now I can play w/ W211 E55's
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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The car is done, it's being driven to get some adaptive miles on it today. If there's time, it will get another dyno run to see the difference, but I'm fresh out of patience. They had to make a second injector change that held me up again. Depending on the correction factor you use, 496-515 crank HP. First run was lower HP but outrageous torque number, 500+. A/F was a little high, so the change was made. Should be delivered Friday.

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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 07:45 AM
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The car is done, it's being driven to get some adaptive miles on it today. If there's time, it will get another dyno run to see the difference, but I'm fresh out of patience. They had to make a second injector change that held me up again. Depending on the correction factor you use, 496-515 crank HP. First run was lower HP but outrageous torque number, 500+. A/F was a little high, so the change was made. Should be delivered Friday.
Yeeoow-eeeeeee

Very nice HP numbers, how much did HPS say this kit might cost?
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Should be $7,500.00 plus install, possibly extra cost for the warranty, they're still negotiating terms with the warranty company.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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The car is done, it's being driven to get some adaptive miles on it today. If there's time, it will get another dyno run to see the difference, but I'm fresh out of patience. They had to make a second injector change that held me up again. Depending on the correction factor you use, 496-515 crank HP. First run was lower HP but outrageous torque number, 500+. A/F was a little high, so the change was made. Should be delivered Friday.
Did you say that they had to make a second injector change? Was your original fuel injector bad or someting? Can you elaborate?
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Factory injectors have to be changed to higher flow units. The first set still did not flow enough to satisfy the motor and the air/fuel ratio was still a little lean. That made monster torque, but not as much HP. The 421 HP run was 11.5 to 12.5 air/fuel, which is ideal.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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Does that mean new higher flow injectors are needed to go along with the Gen II HPS Supercharger? If so, does that also mean there needs to be a change to the ECU?
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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There are no changes to the ECU. The injectors are included because they are required. The stock injectors simply will not flow enough to feed that much horsepower no matter what the ECU tells them. They couldn't stay open long enough to get the flow you need.
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Pardon my ignorance......what is HPS?
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There are no changes to the ECU. The injectors are included because they are required. The stock injectors simply will not flow enough to feed that much horsepower no matter what the ECU tells them. They couldn't stay open long enough to get the flow you need.

Thanks!!! I was getting a little concerned that if I get the HPS Gen II that I would have to make other engine modificatioins.
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Pardon my ignorance......what is HPS?
HPS is a company that makes superchargers as well. There used to be a few HPS guys that posted here, but one of them kinda made HPS look bad, so a few members here don't look at HPS in high regards.
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Old Jan 22, 2005 | 05:36 PM
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Fast55 I read over on the other Mercedes forum....

Originally Posted by Fast55
The car is done, it's being driven to get some adaptive miles on it today. If there's time, it will get another dyno run to see the difference, but I'm fresh out of patience. They had to make a second injector change that held me up again. Depending on the correction factor you use, 496-515 crank HP. First run was lower HP but outrageous torque number, 500+. A/F was a little high, so the change was made. Should be delivered Friday.
That they were loading up your finished Supercharged E55 onto a flatbed for delivery to you a few of days ago, Did you get it yet? If so what are your driving impressions of the new gen II HPS system? I have been eagerly following your progress, because I too plan to purchase this new gen II system for my S500. BTW I live in Santa Barbara, not to far from Ventura, about 30 min..Maybe we could meet up and I could check it out in person??
Good luck w/it Sean.....
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BTW I live in Santa Barbara, not to far from Ventura, about 30 min..Maybe we could meet up and I could check it out in person??
You should meet up with us all on Feb 5th for our annual Rose Bowl AMG/MB meet. I beleive the HPS Gen II will be there !!


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That they were loading up your finished Supercharged E55 onto a flatbed for delivery to you a few of days ago, Did you get it yet? If so what are your driving impressions of the new gen II HPS system? I have been eagerly following your progress, because I too plan to purchase this new gen II system for my S500. BTW I live in Santa Barbara, not to far from Ventura, about 30 min..Maybe we could meet up and I could check it out in person??
Good luck w/it Sean.....
I live in Pismo Beach (San Luis Obispo Co.) Let's have a meet
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