CTS-V vs E63 on Speed tonight...
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Yes, I have done the M5 Driving Experience in Spartanburg SC with professional drivers and have been on Summit Point and Limerock. So much for your assumptions... 
Yes, I am a GM fanboy because I believe the documented video posted on the CTS-V's sub-8 minute N'ring run....
I guess you don't believe the various Ferrari Fiorano track times because those are just Ferrari propaganda...
Apparently we don't agree on much....such is life... and just for the record...if we were a married couple you would be the woman (your logic is eerily woman-like).
Tom
Yes, I am a GM fanboy because I believe the documented video posted on the CTS-V's sub-8 minute N'ring run....
I guess you don't believe the various Ferrari Fiorano track times because those are just Ferrari propaganda...
Apparently we don't agree on much....such is life... and just for the record...if we were a married couple you would be the woman (your logic is eerily woman-like).
Tom
No, i don't take Fioriano times too seriously. You believe the V time, b/c you saw the video? How naive can you be? How much boost did this car run? What tires? Was the suspension stock? Was the car gutted out?
A simple switch from regular tires to slicks or semi-slicks will get you 10-20 secs.
Verily, my fair lady, you are a marketer's dream. Do you still believe that Trix are for Kids? Trust me, you are safe to eat them, silly rabbit.
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Watching you tube videos of someone doing a lap on the 'Ring is one thing, doing it yourself, quite another. I see only one way out of this dilemma ......both of you on the track 
Caddy vs. a German machine 
Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
Caddy vs. a German machine Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
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And hitting 130 on a daily basis is different than racing "above 130" and buying a car b/c it can pull at that speed, IMO.
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Maybe you want to accompany me next time I visit my family in Germany? 130 mph is considered cruising speed for us. We drive that in the slow lane and in the rain .I prefer to go out at night, when there is less traffic and go for some extended top speed runs. If you ever been there, those roads are smooth as glass and perfect for that type of driving.
.I prefer to go out at night, when there is less traffic and go for some extended top speed runs. If you ever been there, those roads are smooth as glass and perfect for that type of driving.
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Watching you tube videos of someone doing a lap on the 'Ring is one thing, doing it yourself, quite another. I see only one way out of this dilemma ......both of you on the track Caddy vs. a German machine
Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
Caddy vs. a German machine Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
Tom
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Watching you tube videos of someone doing a lap on the 'Ring is one thing, doing it yourself, quite another. I see only one way out of this dilemma ......both of you on the track Caddy vs. a German machine
Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
Caddy vs. a German machine Krzysiek: The first thing you learn in a racing school is using your vision correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xME5vvpSMI0
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I think you could have run better than 1:38 with the CTS-V at Rockingham...
I saw your video in the Scuderia (a favorite of mine...even over the 458). Do you do any of the Ferrari track days?
Tom
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I do. I did not go to Art of Ferrari this year at the Glen since I was in Europe. Nowadays I run a lot at NJMP, where I keep the scuderia.
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Last year didnt the cts-v's get beat by a novice driver in a M3 @ cadillacs race track in Monticello NY ? Anyone remember the lap times ? I tried to get my car in and they shot me down after a brief phone Convo . Was gonna have JR from EFI race logics out of CT drive my car and once they knew a pro was gonna drive they gave me the Ax .
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Last year didnt the cts-v's get beat by a novice driver in a M3 @ cadillacs race track in Monticello NY ? Anyone remember the lap times ? I tried to get my car in and they shot me down after a brief phone Convo . Was gonna have JR from EFI race logics out of CT drive my car and once they knew a pro was gonna drive they gave me the Ax .
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While I'm nowhere near as regular as Vic, empty freeways in Northern Mexico allow 150+ to be hit very easily when the chance arises in vehicles with 500+ horsepower....
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How's the CTS-V treating you? Missing the 65? I'm set on a new sedan and have it down to a choice between the new F10 M5 or the third generation RS6. I'm leaning towards the latter, but it's likely three years away while the M5 should be here within two. The V10 has left big shoes to be filled, let's hope M keep up their run of never disappointing.
Vic - congrats on the new E, great job as usual.
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A bit off topic (sorry) but has the F10 M5 release been pushed back? I keep hearing "soon," with its 555+HP TT V8. I'm eager to drive one.
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The new 5-Series is a little heavier, so how close they can stick to the E60 M5's 4012lb curb weight will be key, as will making the TTV8 more characterful than it is in the SUVs.
Fuel economy will be improved (KERS etc), outright speed will be improved and I'm sure it'll be the segment benchmark as usual but if weight and connectivity are down then I may as well switch back to Audi, if their importing habits improve that is.
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I'm set on a new sedan and have it down to a choice between the new F10 M5 or the third generation RS6. I'm leaning towards the latter, but it's likely three years away while the M5 should be here within two. The V10 has left big shoes to be filled, let's hope M keep up their run of never disappointing.
Vic - congrats on the new E, great job as usual.
Vic - congrats on the new E, great job as usual.
Choices.....
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Not that I've heard. M were always aiming for late 2011 as a MY12 and as far as I know they're on track. What we do know is it'll have a DSG 'box and more than the X5M's 547bhp, possibly as much as 592bhp but we'll see.
The new 5-Series is a little heavier, so how close they can stick to the E60 M5's 4012lb curb weight will be key, as will making the TTV8 more characterful than it is in the SUVs.
Fuel economy will be improved (KERS etc), outright speed will be improved and I'm sure it'll be the segment benchmark as usual but if weight and connectivity are down then I may as well switch back to Audi, if their importing habits improve that is.
The new 5-Series is a little heavier, so how close they can stick to the E60 M5's 4012lb curb weight will be key, as will making the TTV8 more characterful than it is in the SUVs.
Fuel economy will be improved (KERS etc), outright speed will be improved and I'm sure it'll be the segment benchmark as usual but if weight and connectivity are down then I may as well switch back to Audi, if their importing habits improve that is.
The CLS with 5.5TT sounds very intriguing.... I just hope they can keep the weight down. It is kind of acceptable for the girth of the RS6 given the AWD... but if the CLS comes in over 4,400lbs, I would have serious reservations.
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I owned both M5 and CTS-V. The CTS-V against M5 from 0-120 is absolutely in the V's favor. The CTS-V and M5 at high speeds are very close with the M5 edging it out (now blowing by it). M5 has sick top-speed gearing but it has no ***** down low. Modded vs modded there is no comparison. That is why I chose CTS-V. The M5 is slightly faster with $5k invested. The CTS-V is significantly faster with $2k put into it.
Back to what Eurowerx was saying, races here almost always go to 150mph+. Usually they aren't even considered a race unless you are hitting at least 140 since there are a lot of variables once you are into the triple digits. I can get any of my past 3 cars up to 130mph on side streets and 160mph easily on the highway. And most of you have seen my 200mph race against the liter bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDk4hERnpw
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
Back to what Eurowerx was saying, races here almost always go to 150mph+. Usually they aren't even considered a race unless you are hitting at least 140 since there are a lot of variables once you are into the triple digits. I can get any of my past 3 cars up to 130mph on side streets and 160mph easily on the highway. And most of you have seen my 200mph race against the liter bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDk4hERnpw
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
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I owned both M5 and CTS-V. The CTS-V against M5 from 0-120 is absolutely in the V's favor. The CTS-V and M5 at high speeds are very close with the M5 edging it out (now blowing by it). M5 has sick top-speed gearing but it has no ***** down low. Modded vs modded there is no comparison. That is why I chose CTS-V. The M5 is slightly faster with $5k invested. The CTS-V is significantly faster with $2k put into it.
Back to what Eurowerx was saying, races here almost always go to 150mph+. Usually they aren't even considered a race unless you are hitting at least 140 since there are a lot of variables once you are into the triple digits. I can get any of my past 3 cars up to 130mph on side streets and 160mph easily on the highway. And most of you have seen my 200mph race against the liter bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDk4hERnpw
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
Back to what Eurowerx was saying, races here almost always go to 150mph+. Usually they aren't even considered a race unless you are hitting at least 140 since there are a lot of variables once you are into the triple digits. I can get any of my past 3 cars up to 130mph on side streets and 160mph easily on the highway. And most of you have seen my 200mph race against the liter bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDk4hERnpw
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
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I can get any of my past 3 cars up to 130mph on side streets and 160mph easily on the highway. And most of you have seen my 200mph race against the liter bike... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDk4hERnpw
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
Here's a recent vid of me and some friends hitting 180+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECffF...layer_embedded the run before this one which wasn't recorded was at 195mph.
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I have to agree with Muga and absent, you guys should find a track to do this stuff. If you're hitting 200 on public roads, that's being real reckless. Its not like these are 5 second runs to 130 and then pulling off, these are extended runs to big speeds. On your videos, looks like there is quite a bit of traffic (at least on the on coming side) and there is one where I think you blow by a mini-van in the center lane. The margin of error at those speeds is not much to turn a fun night into catastrophe. If not out of respect for your lives then do it for others like mine and my family...keep the energy and fun on closed tracks.
