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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 07:10 AM
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Are you finding that the PP suspension is too stiff for your liking?
No. It's fine. Comfort mode is slightly stiffer than it was in my old car, but it's not bad. The difference in tires may be part of it too.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
I would also think it is true that special order will have less bargaining power than inventoried ones that are tying up the business' capital...unless there are someone on this forum who has experience in the dealership finance world to enlighten us with some info on that subject.
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Old Nov 15, 2011 | 11:29 PM
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No. It's fine. Comfort mode is slightly stiffer than it was in my old car, but it's not bad. The difference in tires may be part of it too.
Thanks, i was a little worried it would be too stiff but this is comforting.
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Thanks, i was a little worried it would be too stiff but this is comforting.
you were able to test drive one right?
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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you were able to test drive one right?
The only e63 i have ever driven was a test drive of a 2010/2011 at a dealership. I liked it enough that i figured the 2012 would just be better.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:07 AM
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I kinda feel bad asking for a test drive and racking up the miles on a car i already know i want. Should i not feel bad about this?
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 12:22 AM
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no

i need to find a place to test the new model, so i can decide if i want the 2010/11 or new model,

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
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i need to find a place to test the new model, so i can decide if i want the 2010/11 or new model,

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You absolutely want the 2012 model. Trust me

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:59 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
every time i hear that 6.2 start up, im like daymmmm,

sure the torq is low(er), but for 30 grand less, it can suffice,

but im saying this with out driving the 2012, once i get a chance to, who knows
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:26 PM
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every time i hear that 6.2 start up, im like daymmmm,

sure the torq is low(er), but for 30 grand less, it can suffice,

but im saying this with out driving the 2012, once i get a chance to, who knows
Stock versus stock my CLS63TT has a better "bark" at startup than my E63 did. NO question.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Sorry, you prefer the TT bark or the 6.2?

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Stock versus stock my CLS63TT has a better "bark" at startup than my E63 did. NO question.
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Sorry, you prefer the TT bark or the 6.2?
TT bark, TT WOT throttle sound, TT in general

Now to be fair I did remove the post cats and the resonator on the E63 and sound got better but all I did was remove the resonator on the TT and baaaaaaaaam the sound is alot better than the E63. The TT's dont have post cats from the factory and the car has a serious growl with the resonator out.

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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 03:32 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
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vic, performance wise, how significant is the difference between the two in your estimation

have u run them side to side
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Old Nov 17, 2011 | 04:05 PM
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vic, performance wise, how significant is the difference between the two in your estimation

have u run them side to side
My CLS63TT resonator vid has been posted in the CLS63 and W211 E55 sections.

My E63 has a tune so its about 35 hp up versus stock and the CLS is stock- from a dig the CLS is slightly faster out of the box and the rolling run would go to the CLS. Acceleration from 60 to 130 is faster in the CLS- its not mind blowing faster like my 997 Tuned PDK or the GTR (modded) but its faster no doubt.

No side by side runs as of yet.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 11:04 AM
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Geeze,perhaps I must key on a 2012,VS.the 2010-'11 thoughts of a great deal.
Clearly the most informative thread I've read,particularly "E63's" account. One would think a dealer would dump a 2010,no?
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Old Nov 25, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 01:13 AM
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I have had my car for about a month now, and thought I would write up some follow up comments.

I really love the car, especially the torque. Its a big improvement over the 2010 version. To me, the additional power is quite noticeable. Of course, the 2010 car has a lot of power, so for many people this car and its power will be perfectly fine. Driving my 2012 and 2010 cars back to back, I can really tell the difference, but the 2010 car is still great. The power band is just much more accessible in the 2012. The tires work noticeably harder and longer to find grip than in the 2010 car. Its fun to dip into that vat of torque.

Regarding what others have said about shifting speed, I am not sure what the big deal is. I normally don't drive in M mode, but I often use the paddles while in S+ mode, and the speed of shifting seems plenty fast to me. I care much more about two other aspects of shifting, rather than just gear change speed: Overall speed of the car and smoothness of the shifting. I want my car to accelerate fast. Part of this is based on the speed of the gear changes, but that is also coupled with the engine power. I would rather have a car that took longer to shift gears, but got to 60 miles an hour faster than one with lightning quick shifts. Also, I want a car that is not jerky when shifting. I test drove an M5 a few years ago and could not stand the jerky shifter. It might have shifted faster, but so what. It was unpleasantly rough.

The steering of the 2012 is also better than on the 2010. I think it is quicker and lighter, but part of this may be the difference in steering wheels.

The engine sound is great in both cars. The 2012 car has a different tone, but still sounds very mean.

I forgot to mention another minor change to the 2012 in my earlier posts. In my 2010 car, the horizontal area immediately surrounding the gear shifter and selector buttons was brushed metal, with burl wood trim on the sides. In the new car, both these areas are black, even if the rest of the trim for the car is burl wood.

The ride of the car, though a bit stiffer than the 2010, is fine. Driving the 2010 in Comfort mode does feel a little like a boat in comparison. The new car is stiffer, but not too stiff for my taste.

I replaced the amber front lenses, and it looks much better.
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 01:39 AM
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Originally Posted by E63AMG
I have had my car for about a month now, and thought I would write up some follow up comments.

I really love the car, especially the torque. Its a big improvement over the 2010 version. To me, the additional power is quite noticeable. Of course, the 2010 car has a lot of power, so for many people this car and its power will be perfectly fine. Driving my 2012 and 2010 cars back to back, I can really tell the difference, but the 2010 car is still great. The power band is just much more accessible in the 2012. The tires work noticeably harder and longer to find grip than in the 2010 car. Its fun to dip into that vat of torque.

Regarding what others have said about shifting speed, I am not sure what the big deal is. I normally don't drive in M mode, but I often use the paddles while in S+ mode, and the speed of shifting seems plenty fast to me. I care much more about two other aspects of shifting, rather than just gear change speed: Overall speed of the car and smoothness of the shifting. I want my car to accelerate fast. Part of this is based on the speed of the gear changes, but that is also coupled with the engine power. I would rather have a car that took longer to shift gears, but got to 60 miles an hour faster than one with lightning quick shifts. Also, I want a car that is not jerky when shifting. I test drove an M5 a few years ago and could not stand the jerky shifter. It might have shifted faster, but so what. It was unpleasantly rough.

The steering of the 2012 is also better than on the 2010. I think it is quicker and lighter, but part of this may be the difference in steering wheels.

The engine sound is great in both cars. The 2012 car has a different tone, but still sounds very mean.

I forgot to mention another minor change to the 2012 in my earlier posts. In my 2010 car, the horizontal area immediately surrounding the gear shifter and selector buttons was brushed metal, with burl wood trim on the sides. In the new car, both these areas are black, even if the rest of the trim for the car is burl wood.

The ride of the car, though a bit stiffer than the 2010, is fine. Driving the 2010 in Comfort mode does feel a little like a boat in comparison. The new car is stiffer, but not too stiff for my taste.

I replaced the amber front lenses, and it looks much better.
Awesome! this makes me even more excited to get mine!
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Old Nov 30, 2011 | 03:30 AM
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Let's not forget that if you plan on modding your car the possibilities with the new 5.5 TT is MUCH bigger than the outgoing 6.2.

6.2 Engine with ECU and long tube headers will push approximately 580 crank HP.

5.5 TT with an ECU and downpipes will be very close if not over 700 crank HP.

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