thunderMB

Had my AMG package 2012 for one month now - roughly 2000 miles.
Car has a quite noticeable (irritating) vibration starting at around 75mph.
Tried re-balancing all wheels/tires, different set of wheels/tires - still vibrates.
Does not matter whet gear I am in - still vibrates at over 75 mph.
Must be somthing in the wheel rotors or hubs. Anyone seen anything like this on their cars?
Dealer is stumped.
Thanks

E63///AMG

I have the same problem with a 6,3 V8. Dealer has no answer!

Vic55

Very odd... I do not have this issue with my CLS or my E. Have you tried an alignment? Sometimes at higher speeds if the Toe is off you will get some negative feedback.

BRETT0429

Just got my cls63 same thing the wheel vibrates at speed over 77 or so

Mockbam5

Same problem on my 6.3l e63 2010

AlbertM

I had a similar problem on my 2010 E63 (https://mbworld.org/forums/w212-amg/...any-ideas.html)

Did anyone check bolts connecting drive shaft to the differential?

russellm

A very interesting read on your situation Albert.

I have lived through a similar situation on my 2005 E55.... I brought my car in because it had no power when my put my foot into it (as if the super charger was no longer working). It sat at the dealership for "2 weeks" while they were replacing things left and right and could simply not figure it out. Finally, they found some wiring issue that was causing the problem.

Personally, I think for the most part technicians end up debugging issues through trial and error (in my early days as a computer debug tech we called it the "shot gun" approach) when their tools do not tell them what the problem is.

My 2012 E63 comes in soon, so I will certainly test it for this issue.

I would also be interested if you ever went back and closed your situation with your dealer (never answered in your other thread) and what they had to say for themselves.

Thanks
Russell

Sugarfish

Vic55 mentioned alignment. Have you checked that? I've been told many times that most new cars do not come properly aligned. Anyone know whether this is right? If so, I may pick my car up and take it straight over for an alignment.

thunderMB

What tires does your car have on them?
Pirelli or Continental?

To answer some of the other questions on the post, my car has been en many times. Tried alignment, "super good" balancing - nothing helped.
Finally gave up and put on winter snow tires - Bridgestone Blizzaks that are super sof and narrower than OEM tires, and now the car finally drives like ... well... like a Mercedes!!

BRETT0429

Continental
I believe alightment would be more for pulling this is when i hit those speed wheel start to vibrate like the balancing is off.
any help would be great?
thanks
brett

thunderMB

Well, it is disappointing to know that the Continentals also do this. My dealer and Mercedes had proposed to swap my Pirellis (which are notorious for vibration), to Continentals, but we never got the chance because it is winter there are no summer Continentals avaialble in our region.
As I mentioned erlier, swapping to slighly softer, narrower, and taller Blizzak snows, dramatically improved the situation.
I think this confirms my theory that the combination of wide, low profile tires, stiff suspension bushings and shock absorbers, make the car vulnerable to the slightest irregularity. Bad design. Mercedes knows better given their long history of autobahn cruisers.

BRETT0429

So what brand tire and what size do u have and u say u have no issues anymore?

BRETT0429

What brand do u have?

MV99

I sent my car to dealer for ECU (OE) tuning and I asked my service manager help to fix the vibration at high speed issue.

First of all, I was happy with the new ECU. On top of that, I found they fix the vibration issue by doing alignment adjustment.

I used to use Pirelli and not with Bridgestone Potenza S-04.

BRETT0429

[QUOTE=MV99;4964814]I sent my car to dealer for ECU (OE) tuning and I asked my service manager help to fix the vibration at high speed issue.

First of all, I was happy with the new ECU. On top of that, I found they fix the vibration issue by doing alignment adjustment.

So the problem was fixed with alignment?
Also the dealer did a tune on your car what did it cost and what dealer?

MV99

[QUOTE=BRETT0429;4965016]The vibration did get fix now. My service manager and I discussed about alignment before the service so I assume it was the reason for fixing the vibration.

I went thru my service manager (at FJ Fremont) for ECU and cost was $1200. He told me if for some reason ECU got re-flashed in the future at dealer, he will arrange to get the tune back.

MV99

just checked and found dealer re-balance the tires and that was what they did to fix vibration.

After been driving with vibration for couple of months really makes me appreciate when the problem gets fixed.

kip

Isnt this the oldest thing and one of the most irritating. This usually happens when cars stand for a long time. The tires get flat from the bottom and when they start rolling, the flat part goes differently in every tire causing quite a lot of vibration above 100km/h. My friend had that in a used car that was for sale for a few months before he bought it.

thunderMB

We are not talking about flat-spotting after sitting.
My car still vibrated on OEM Pirellis after driving 100 highway miles.
Does NOT vibrate with soft winter tires.

thunderMB

Bridgestone Blizzak LM 60 WINTER tires (soft and mushy)
245/40R19 front (maximum diameter that will fit in front).
275/35R19 rear

kip

You off course realize that if the wheel flattens, it doesnt recover after driving for 100 or 10 000 highway miles... If it doesnt vibrate with winter tires, its 100% the rim or the tires.

thunderMB

Yes, I realize that if the WHEEL flattens (ie is bent) it will NEVER recover, but if the TIRE flatspots from sitting, (as all tires do to some extent), the TIRE WILL recover within a reasonable amount of driving and warming up.

My WHEELS are not bent or flat,, as evidenced by the fact that the snow tires mounted on the same OEM wheels that the Pirelli summer tires were mounted on (and vibrated), work just fine.

kip

Sorry, I missunderstood you. SO same rims, different tires. But cant it still be the summer tires that are flat? IF the car works fine with winter tires (same, car, same rims, same alignment), the only diffrence is the tires. So why is it a bad assumption there is something wrong with your summer tires?

MV99

The feeling of vibration really is annoying. I had that for about two months after replacing worn tires.

I changed from Pirelli to Bridgestone Potenza S-04. For some reason, it was off balance after tire replacement. My car vibrates around speed of 75-80 miles per hour.

After two trips to dealer, the problem now is fixed...........it feels very good driving my car vibration free and upgraded ECU adding a bit more enjoyment.........

You can ask your service manager to check the balance.

E55_GT3wheels

I have a similar problem now. Here is my story.

I have a 2010 E63. I had the stock OEM 18 in AMG wheels. WIth these, it was a minor vibration above 75. Almost not even noticable so I lived with it.

I recently bought new 19in OEM performance package wheels. Had them mounted and balanced today. Now there is a pretty substaintial vibration 75+. The rims are not bent - they are new. The tires are also new - stock contis.

I am going to go back to the dealership and have them take a look no doubt. I am sure they will try rebalancing but after reading this, I don't think that will solve the issue.

Now here is some more information. I believe there is a seperate thread on this also. When turning the wheel left or right, there is a clicking noise that is definatley not normal. I am thinking that may be causing the issue and now that I switched to lower profile and larger wheels/tires, it is being even more pronounced as evidenced by the vibration.

I believe some people had their struts replaced to fix the issue...any one recall this thread? I can try to find it.

Maybe the strut issue is causing the problem in your car also? I think it was the struts that were replaced on others cars.

This is super annoying! Please keep this thread updated with any progress - I will do the same. let's hope we get this fixed - i bet it is the same issue with our cars.