i was wondering, now that more people have the new model and more are ordering with the PP,

can anyone who has the experience tell us how they feel the PP version of the suspension compares to the NON PP amg suspension

i know vic stated that the PP version is like one notch up on the non version

was wondering other opinions and thoughts, thanks

 

I had opportunity to check two 2012 CLS63's at the same time: one with and second without sport suspension. As someone on this forum said the sport suspension (standard equipment in USA PP version) is about one step more firm than standard. I mean sport mode in non PP car is very similar to comfort mode in PP version.

Personally I prefer standard suspension which is more comfortable especially in areas where roads are not in good condition.

 

I just finished driving the CLS63 with the PP for a few days on the same roads and went up and down the spectrum in regards to speed and on turns. Then the last two days I took the E63 (non PP) on the same roads and was able to go up and down the spectrum regarding speed (from zero to about 130).

So I was able to relate from one suspension over a few days and then compare it to the other for the same period of time... The only problem I have is that its not 100% fair since I run H and R springs on the E63 and KW coils on the CLS63 but anyways the clear winner for me is the CLS with the PP. The suspension is just so taut when you need it and soft and compliant as well when comfort is warranted. Its not as soft as the non PP, no doubt and I actually feel it might be two steps stiffer per button meaning the comfort mode in the PP would be almost equal to the suspension plus (two lights on) with the non PP.

The way the car is planted at higher speeds in the straights and big bends (all speeds over 100 mph) clearly favor the PP. When I go WOT and enter in a big bend turn- I find the confidence and "planted" feel of the CLS to inspire more confidence vs the more "floaty" feeling of the E. Again, the KW's probably play a reasonable role in this. But the PP again is dampeners not the springs so you get a much tighter set up all the way around.

Im glad I got the PP- even if a tune would wipe out the HP gain versus a stock TT. To me its worth it with the stock hp/tq bump, stiffer shocks, steering wheel, and other goodies. But its all subjective to your comfort threshold and desire for the best handling you can get out of a 4000lb plus car. I really like to push and drive the car so for me function over form all day...

 

its funny how sometimes we make it sound like the regular AMG suspension is not a sports suspension....it is, its just that the PP is even more finely tuned


what i dont know is, is the compononets the same between the 2 and is it just revalving or electronic tuning that makes them different, or is it completely different components

also, the rears in all the cars is just air ride right

i got to drive another PP E today, ride seemed ok, was nice in level one but on the 10 freeway in sport plus it was bumpy

in terms of the tranny, this one was smooth shifting throught out

they had a 2006 e55 too, just had to drive it, hadnt driven it in yrs, still very fast, but more boat like than the new cars

 

Well fwiw the amg pp suspension has completely different shocks. I do know that electronic tuning is separate from the dampeners in a sense that I could buy 4 PP AMG dampeners for my non PP AMG E63 and I would not need to redo the electronics. Based on this its probably different compression and rebounding characteristics which create a different part number.

And the 10 freeway sucks so you will most definitely feel the PP car... I was on it xmas day and wow what a beat up freeway in certain points.

 

interesting thing, between the 2 options is that the PP isnt any lower , both cars are at the same height

one usually associates a sportier suspension with lowering,

 

Yep like the competition package in the M3 or ... lets say the sport suspension in a Pan.

 

just need to find a steel grey car, with PP, that would be nice

 

I just sourced a 2012... it has the PP, LSD, and the 10 spokers... but it doesnt have the premium leather.

 

The sad thing is, the road condition here in the US is getting worse and worse. There is nearly no more repairing done due to the way economy is. A recent study shows lots of roads around the country are now completely repaved with gravel. Maybe my next car will need to be a G-class.

 

vic where is it? i can live with out the premium leather, and the 10 spokes look nice too, is they were only 18s it would be an issue but as 19s' i still like them