W212 AMG Discuss the W212 AMG's such as the E63

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Old May 22, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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P30 sport suspention

How stiff is the p30 sport suspention ? Is it only the shocks diffrent than the normal E63 or the spring too ? I had a gtr35 and i sold it because it was stiff , so i am thinking to buy anormal E63 with LSD and tune the ecu , i dont know what to buy , money is not an issue ,
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Old May 22, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Let others with P30 chip in. But from what I have read, it's noticeably 1 step stiffer. That means the lowest setting (no light) on the P30 is same as one light on the regular E63--then it goes on the same way. Obiously the two lights on P30 is way stiffer than the same on non P30.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
No one really knows. I have PP and have driven non

Seem similar.

vic will say other wise and he knows best
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Old May 23, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Thanks vdub , I'm traveliing to the states ( Newport, CA) next month , i will try to test drive pp and non ,
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Old May 23, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
Where r u coming from.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Yes, I was thinking of Vic when I wrote my post above. There were multiple posts before by Vic discussing the difference in stiffness between the two.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 11:14 PM
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I have had 10' E63 without PP and now 12' with PP. The difference is the shocks are calibrated firmer. Love the ride as it's more planted...it's firm but not harsh. Now even more better with KW lowering kit as it feels tighter and steering feel a tad firmer..also love the alacantra steering wheel
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Old May 26, 2012 | 06:18 AM
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Where r u coming from.
I am from abu dhabi , UAE . But always spend my summer vecation in CA
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Old May 26, 2012 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
No one really knows. I have PP and have driven non

Seem similar.

vic will fast otherwise
Originally Posted by vdubpower
No one really knows. I have PP and have driven non

Seem similar.

vic will say and he knows best
Originally Posted by vdubpower
No one really knows. I have PP and have driven non

Seem similar.

vic will say other wise and he knows best


what are you smokin'???
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Old May 26, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
Yeah just noticed that, thanks for making it more permanent, lol
Must have pressed submit a few times
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Old May 26, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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P30 is firm but still civilized.
I leave it on the lowest setting, until there are twisties to attack.
On high the handling is really good.
To me its a must have if you enjoy twisty roads.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
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what are you smokin'???
LOL Yup, that's the type of us drivers behind those 500+hp cars on the road.
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Old May 27, 2012 | 10:50 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
yeah most of my driving is with the amg button which was preset to s+ and one light on the suspension, they i put the esp on sport, ( not sure i have noticed a difference though with it on or on sport)
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Old May 29, 2012 | 12:43 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
It's too bad the esp cannot be set in the AMG button. That will be one less button to press.
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Old May 29, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Ive have placed numerous posts about the AMG PP suspension---- the skinny:

It brings the car to a much closer level of BMW M suspension. Its firm but forgiving over softer undulations and remains very planted at higher speeds (over 100 mph). The limitation of yaw and body roll is clearly noticeable and for me... I love to drive cars and push them in sharp turns and high speed bends so this suspension is a must. Ill sacrifice the limited comfort loss all day for the more aggressive road and chassis feel created from the harder dampeners. I hate body roll- that was one of the issues I had with my 2004 E55 with pigmatic. The transition from airmatic in the front on the W212 to steel springs is a benefit for me long time waiting. Even ABC on the SL, CL, S, etc is still too soft. Im seriously considering the new F10 M5 for a few major reasons (DCT for sure) and the suspension and handling feel.

Some retail msrp facts:

The front dampeners are about 1095 dollars each (PP) and the rears are 850 each (PP). Im not sure what the non PP AMG dampeners are but they are less. I am looking into getting a set for my wagon which doesnt get the stiffer shocks with the PP package.
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Old May 29, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
LOL pigmatic

what are you gonna sell (if you are), when you get the beemer
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Old May 30, 2012 | 04:42 AM
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I can pick a PP car with its red calipers but how can you tell if a car has P30 sports suspension?
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i drive them all, fast and hard
Because its a PP car
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Old May 30, 2012 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mhh
I can pick a PP car with its red calipers but how can you tell if a car has P30 sports suspension?
Originally Posted by vdubpower
Because its a PP car
V Dub is correct unless its a PP wagon which does not get the stiffer dampeners


V dub not sure what Ill dump yet if I even dump a car...
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Old May 30, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
Get rid of the Lexus ewwww
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Old May 30, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by mhh
I can pick a PP car with its red calipers but how can you tell if a car has P30 sports suspension?
Here in UAE , it comes with red calipers , AMG Performance Steering Wheel, carbon , but without the sport suspention and tune (518hp)
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Old May 30, 2012 | 01:48 PM
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V Dub is correct unless its a PP wagon which does not get the stiffer dampeners

OK, thanks. Personally, I don't think I'd want my wagon to be any stiffer in the softest setting, especially as I can make it stiffer with the suspension button if I want to. I've got an M5 too - I'm not sure yet which I prefer ride-wise, but the E63 is easier to drive overall.
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Old May 30, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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OK, thanks. Personally, I don't think I'd want my wagon to be any stiffer in the softest setting, especially as I can make it stiffer with the suspension button if I want to. I've got an M5 too - I'm not sure yet which I prefer ride-wise, but the E63 is easier to drive overall.
My wagon, to me, is still slightly too fluffy- the rear weight bias and the car being dropped are the major culprits. I want a tighter rebound and compression that what is offered via the stock non PP dampeners.

But thats personal preference only.
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Old May 30, 2012 | 11:21 PM
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FF. W212 E63 M156 non-pano 18" P2 ParkT NightV (gone but will be missed).
Wonder what's the rationale for MB to put softer front damper for the P30 wagon--maybe simply because it's a wagon.
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Old May 30, 2012 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by otakki
Wonder what's the rationale for MB to put softer front damper for the P30 wagon--maybe simply because it's a wagon.
Front and rear are the standard non PP AMG dampeners. I have no clue why.
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