LFTW8S

Afternoon,

Can anyone offer thoughts on both sides of this option (having it and not having it). Does the $10k offer bang-for-the-buck while owning the car and when it comes time to sell? Is there any special maintenance needed?

Thanks in advance!

vdubpower

vote for yes

diononiz

I'd say it depends. If you are going to get a tune then no as the power is the same with or without the performance package. People seem to be pretty happy with the KW suspension set up so I would think it would be at least as good as the factory performance package. The limited slip can now be ordered outside the package. So the only time I would say yes is if you want the extra power without getting an aftermarket tune.

hyperion667

yes for bragging rights, LOL, but really.....

you'll be happier and you won't lose sleep

wondering about a tune and your warranty
and plus the stock reds and other things like the engine cover are with that too right?

NickyBlack

skip the package and get a aftermarket tune. save 8 stacks and get aftermarket wheels.

LFTW8S

Thanks to all for the input. I'm looking at a 2010 with the P30 pkg so the red calipers are out. Does the factory P30 tune bump the hp and improve tranny shifts as well? What does the aftermarket tune cost?

Again, thanks!!

vdubpower

2010 it gives u a nice steering wheel and lsd, no power increase

NickE63

waist of money 100%

hyperion667

you also get upgraded brakes and suspention right?

otakki

I believe the brakes are the same. I will still vote for yes due to the improved suspension and better handling. Moreover, it will not void the warranty like outside tune. Better yet, also get the LSD. Personally, I don't care for cosmetic things like the red brake caliper and CF engine cover.

Google Vic's response to the P30. I think there is a recent link in the CLS63 forum.

NickyBlack

No power increase so you'll have to get a chip anyway if you want more hp. Double

LFTW8S

It seems like the AMG non-pp is 518hp and the AMG with pp are 550hp. Is this correct? Btw...why do some say p30 and some say pp?

hyperion667

I think P30 is the ordering code and PP is for performance package......right?

jtrichel

to me the reason to buy the performance package is not for the power increase (which is easily achievable with tune), its for the upgraded brakes and suspension that AMG has decided are needed to handle the extra power... sure you could piece all that together separately, but in the end you wont be that far off the package price and I prefer the OEM warrantied version

vdubpower

brakes are the same, color is different.

jtrichel

really? only caliper color? then I guess it does come down to suspension....

MV99

Yes, it is correct. When people use pp, they most likely meant p30. I think there is a option called p20.

I did have 2012 E63. HP was the same with or without pp. I did do the ECU tune and the power gain was there but limited. Most improvement was from better response curve from gas paddle to engine output.

I am now driving 2012 E63 wagon. With ECU tune, This one will certainly see significant Increase on hp (70-80) and torque (100 plus). Since end tuning result will be the same, I opt to take a non-pp version. I am arranging ECU tune at the moment. She is already one fast and pretty responsive (due to torque ready at low rpm) wagon. I am really looking forward to the after tuned new her.

Mitch

vdubpower

if you plan to tune dont get pp, if you dont then get it

otakki

PP also means premium package to some people.

MarcusBDUB

anybody know if the P30 perf pkg HP gain eats more oil and/or gas than the non-pp (on a 2012)?

Thx

otakki

From what I have read, there is no difference in oil/gas usage between the two. Enticing, huh?!

MarcusBDUB

Yes, very! Seems like a no-brainer.

Now, if I can just find one left with the right other stuff on it.

jvakos

digging up old thread here, as after searching extensively the E63 boards this was the closest to my question (but in the process learned a ton about the E63 from all the great info you guys post!).

I'm in the market to buy a 2012/2013 E63 and assumed the P30 perf package (550hp, 590tq i believe) is good to have if you can find it on a used E63 in addition to getting one with the LSD option.

My questions:

Would an aftermarket tune (renntech or AMS or others) remove or "erase" the P30 factory option with their tune OR would you get the full benefit of the aftermarket tune power that is in addition to what the P30 provides?

i've read several posts stating if you plan to tune then *dont* waste the money on the P30 option but am interested in opinions.

thx

kponti

Tuned car will in theory erase the P30 tune. Outside of lsd, there isn't any real discernable differences. The so called suspension improvement is also more software making the shocks stiffer which doesn't really translate into better handling imo. I do have the P30 myself but I wasn't seeking it necessarily, just happened to be in the right colors I liked.

2012 merc amg

If you did a tune on non PP model I'd think you'd almost have to upgrade the rear end to LSD as without it and a tune I'd think it would be pretty scary with one wheel spinning. My 2012 has the PP option.