Vic55

I drove the stock m5 the other day and I agree its faster in stock format and definitely from a roll vs a stock PP car... the DCT really shines.

But Im considering this car because I want a driver's 4 door car and my CLS is just a bit long in the tooth right now. Or maybe its because I cant keep my cars long enough I really enjoyed the way the M5 felt on the road (the initial launch was neck snapping and it pulls) but I didnt get to take up over 150 mph

vdubpower

And where did u get to do this test drive

Vic55

Does it matter?

Irvine BMW prior to the recall announcement last friday.

E-Ridium 63

These M5 vs E63 debates are kinda silly. For the most part, they are so closely matched, the differences are really negligible for 98% of potential buyers and 99% of the situations that these cars will actually be used in. These are both great machines.

All it really comes down to is personal preference and silly bragging rights. Buy the one you think you will enjoy most and appreciate it for what it is instead of obsessing what the other may or may not have over yours.

vdubpower

Lol I meant where did u get to take it to 150.

Vic55

I didnt get it to 150- i wanted to as I stated above but got close-- mexico toll roads

vdubpower

i need to hit those up one day

mainly

yes for sure. they are really close in terms of performance, speed, acceleration. pointless to think; oh, the m5 tested a 10th quicker than the 5.5 tt in most mags therefore, if i pull up against one, ill win every time.

there so close, so many other factors come into play.

what made the decision easy for me, had less to do with performance. (all though i should say the DCT of the m5 smashes the MCT of the amg, and the throttle respnse stock vs stock is much better in the m5)

but, the m5 is so much more refined in terms of the interior comfort, and design, quality of materials, etc.

and as for the new M6 interior? forget about it.

Vic55

LOL you act like its the only car that has grown... ok pull up the venerable E-AMG platform:

E55 W210
E55 W211
E63 W211
E63 W212

Id fathom you would see analagous weight gains... and with each M5, the cars get faster and handle better- go figure rock!!

Rock

^ Why are you attempting to stifle my AMG propaganda campaign?

vdubpower

he is leaving us for a few months until the cls black series shootingbrake with optional Drag reduction system comes over

Vic55

Another dyno for the new F10 M5- very favorable numbers from an actual local shop that I have done biz with too: EAS.


These numbers seem very very strong--- of course dynos can be manipulated/adjusted/user error/conditions etc. But 530 whp is very nice.




and the link to the post on M5Post:

Click Here

Mjthind

You will, we have more torque and are lighter, the new M5 is for old ****'s(no offense to older E63 AMG Owners) It is so nice and creamy like the 750. I have heard way to way to many reliability horror stories about Bimmers in general its why I have only have stuck with two branda my whole life Lexus and Mercedes Benz, same goes for my immediate and extended family. Just take look at the problem per hundred vehicle report...

Vic55

So transmission, gearing, CoEd amongst other things dont mean anything? How do you think the E9x M3's with 414 hp were able to compete with much more powerful foes like the C63 and E63 (non M157's)? What about the almost 4k lb GTR (even a 2009 with 480 hp is amazing)... Its the dual clutch transmission. Its more efficient in delivering the power to the ground than the planetary auto in the M157's...

Like I mentioned earlier on page 1, its a drivers race but the latest dynos are showing the whp (very strong stock) of the new M5's and that primarly is attributed to the DCT. I wish Benz would put the SLS DC trannies in the other AMG's.

vdubpower

just did the amg academy, drove the entire lineup

OMG SLS is amazing

Vic55

Tell us more about your SLS experience....

vdubpower

http://c324572.r72.cf1.rackcdn.com/5...24a_Faiz_R.mp4

heres a few laps at fontana

the car is so quick and just sounds amazing.....sorta kinda want that 6.2

vic, with all your amgs cars, u so should do a academy....its free man.....if u don't want to go, send me your vin numbers, ill happily take your spots

There is alot of cool events

u drive the slk 55 and sl63 in a event testing braking , abs...and learning to stop in the box


then u learn to drift in a c63.....techinically control a slide....

drag race a cls63 vs e63 around a 1/5 of a mile maybe a 1/6 and the u would have to stop in a box
got to around 85 when i slammed on brakes....i had a car with both PP and ceramics but i think i hit it perfect with a non pp non ceramic car..

we then did autocross with the slk
and did laps around the oval in the sls, c, and sl
and finally a hot lap with tommy kendall in an sls....omg can he drive

Vic55

Thanks Vdub....


can you speak to the DCT on the SLS vs our MCT's??

emericr

we will have to wait for head to head comparison but the CLS63 has been proven to be underrated so I would not bet on the M5

http://www.0-60mag.com/photos/2012/0...is-underrated/

As a side note, the S8 is also way underrated and this explains the awesome performance.

I can't wait to get my CLS .

The roar alone of the M157 versus the synthetic thru the speakers of the F10 should be reason enough not to buy the M5 .

Vic55

Im the one who posted the S8 thread in the C63 forum- its a great performer. As for the speakers in the M5 I have driven the car alot lately and you can not notice it. But the exhaust is missing no doubt... Having owned 2 M157's and had extensive F10 seat time Ill say from my experience that the M5 feels stronger up top as it pulls into speeds of 150+. This is of course SOTP feel and this is stock vs stock. Both my M157's were/are chipped and they would pull away easily. The M5 feels likes a PP car with a mini tune; as the dyno above might just indeed indicate.

vdubpower

the dct was crisp but not head jarring, the sounds were amazing both up and down the gears

otakki

Again, MB really should have DCT in all future new AMG cars. Oh, and LSD, too.

Yeah, I sure can use somebody's vin# for some free AMG driving. However, I'm sure that's not allowed.

Vic55

Ive had 3 AMGS in the last year--- I have the sheets sitting around somewhere to sign up.

GMW

I can't wait to see what next years E63 4matic does in the quarter mile as I believe the M5 will need 4WD too, to keep up ;-))

otakki

http://www.amgacademy.com/program/of...reward-program

From what I read on the AMG Driving Academy site above, they will verify the enlistee to be the original owner and "the complimentary program is non-transferable." But I hope I am wrong and if it is as simple as having the sheet as a "coupon," please PM me!