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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 02:59 PM
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Nope, dealer will upload all the files that are associated with your VIN and thats it. They cant do more. Every ecu is programmed based on what comes up on your VIN number..
Like said, everything according to the vin of the car. Dealer will not change anything!!!
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:44 PM
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With the programing by the dealer of the eCu and new ecu it came out to about 2k
Damn... the dealer sold you a second stock ECU and also a Renntech programmed ECU?... for 2k$?

This sounds amazing.
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Old Feb 1, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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Damn... the dealer sold you a second stock ECU and also a Renntech programmed ECU?... for 2k$? This sounds amazing.
No,,, I wish!!!! The tune was 3k and change on the original Ecu that car came with and then i got a separate brand new Ecu which had to be programmed with the original stock tune and that cost additional 2k.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 01:32 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
is that little dab of paint where they drilled??? or is it just my eyes
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 06:02 AM
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They ere all drilled at Renntech
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
is that little dab of paint where they drilled??? or is it just my eyes

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I cant find or see and drilling marks on my ecu. Everything looks untouched.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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No there's nothing there.If they did it's darn good

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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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No,,, I wish!!!! The tune was 3k and change on the original Ecu that car came with and then i got a separate brand new Ecu which had to be programmed with the original stock tune and that cost additional 2k.
OK, that's more in-line with my expectation

I was pulling out the CC and thinking "warranty be damned, who is this dealer?!?!"
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Nice makeup on that ECU---- its stupid NOT to drill as flexing the board is far more risky. The drill occurs right where the programming occurs and the cover up is basically impossible to locate via the human eye. I have seen it with others and then lined up two ecus (one drilled and one not) and its impossible to find if the cover up is done well.

Id much rather have mine drilled than flexed out....
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Please elaborate..flexing / drilling ? why ? Is there a physical procedure involved to complete the tune ? I suspect so or it cannot be completed electronically through the connection port ? I suspect not otherwise the tune could be completed in the vehicle....so what exactly is performed...just curious

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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Ok,
This why they are drilled.
Instead of cracking open the whole box they drill a access hole for a button/ switch on ECU board to be depressed.
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 04:21 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
what does that button switch do, ? all the data is plugged in thru there and sent??

whats these piggyback tunes people talk about?? how do they work
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Old Feb 2, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Ok,
This why they are drilled.
Instead of cracking open the whole box they drill a access hole for a button/ switch on ECU board to be depressed.
Interesting...thanks for this. So the button switch is already there and they are just accessing it ?. If indeed they did drill mine they concealed it very well..although I was not looking for it specifically I did not pick up on it..
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 12:53 PM
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Authorized Renntech Dealer Necessary?

Please help me understand something: I am unclear on whether or not it is necessary, or best, to go to a Renntech "authorized dealer" to get a Renntech ECU installed. It sounds like replacing the ECU is pretty much a "plug and play" operation, so can any capable Mercedes shop do this upgrade?
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Old Feb 3, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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It is a simple task task to remove...send to RT and re-install..but if you think your dealer may offer warranty based on them selling you the tune and if their take is reasonable then why not buy it through them...but yes is is easy to do yourself..5 mins
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by E63AMG
Please help me understand something: I am unclear on whether or not it is necessary, or best, to go to a Renntech "authorized dealer" to get a Renntech ECU installed. It sounds like replacing the ECU is pretty much a "plug and play" operation, so can any capable Mercedes shop do this upgrade?
I was going to do the removal and install myself but I know how much of a hater the local MB dealer is about mods so the fact that their is a local Renntech MB dealer was a bonus...especially considering I still have 2 years left on my warranty. Hope this helps
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nanook
Please elaborate..flexing / drilling ? why ? Is there a physical procedure involved to complete the tune ? I suspect so or it cannot be completed electronically through the connection port ? I suspect not otherwise the tune could be completed in the vehicle....so what exactly is performed...just curious

The ECU is basically a myriad of chips on the board glued to the outer shell. The early adopters had their ECU's tuned via the removal of the glue from the board. This would yield a naked board (I had my CLS63TT in Nov 2011 done this way) but it was very hard to remove the glue and I "heard" that several tuners flexed the board due to force causing the electronics to fail (chips). This renedered the car dead. Subsequently the tuners found where they need to update the ECU and just drilled the hole; no glue removal or board flex or chance of frying the board.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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I was going to do the removal and install myself but I know how much of a hater the local MB dealer is about mods so the fact that their is a local Renntech MB dealer was a bonus...especially considering I still have 2 years left on my warranty. Hope this helps
Sorry, but I did not post my question clearly. I was not saying my local MB dealer would install a Renntech ECU. I was thinking of taking the car to a nearby independent repair shop that specializes in Mercedes.

The reason I would do this instead of going to an "authorized Renntech Dealer", is that the closest authorized Renntech Dealer is about an hour away from me. Also, it seems that the closest Renntech Dealer to me is more of a wheel/tire installer, not expert MB mechanic. If there are problems with the ECU that need fixing (like a plug swap), I would think my local independent Mercedes repair shop would be better equipped to do it.

So I guess I am asking did you Renntech ECU purchasers go thru one of the authorized Renntech dealers, or thru an independent repair shop, or through a Mercedes dealer? Thx!
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by E63AMG
Sorry, but I did not post my question clearly. I was not saying my local MB dealer would install a Renntech ECU. I was thinking of taking the car to a nearby independent repair shop that specializes in Mercedes. The reason I would do this instead of going to an "authorized Renntech Dealer", is that the closest authorized Renntech Dealer is about an hour away from me. Also, it seems that the closest Renntech Dealer to me is more of a wheel/tire installer, not expert MB mechanic. If there are problems with the ECU that need fixing (like a plug swap), I would think my local independent Mercedes repair shop would be better equipped to do it. So I guess I am asking did you Renntech ECU purchasers go thru one of the authorized Renntech dealers, or thru an independent repair shop, or through a Mercedes dealer? Thx!
Save yourself time and headache. Do it yourself. Call up Renntech and they will instruct you with everything.
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:11 PM
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Agree going directly through renntech is the better cost option especially if you don't mind possibly risking the dealer finding out you modded your AMG
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by grocery getter
Agree going directly through renntech is the better cost option especially if you don't mind possibly risking the dealer finding out you modded your AMG
I didnt go thru my MB dealer and they do Renntech and I have no issues with the dealer.
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i drive them all, fast and hard
still amazing that they can do a tune thru a teeny hole.... but then again i can do an acl recon thru 2 tiny holes
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Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:17 PM
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still amazing that they can do a tune thru a teeny hole.... but then again i can do an acl recon thru 2 tiny holes
Yeah, but I can see the ACL tear with magic
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Old Feb 5, 2014 | 02:33 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
i can diagnosis by listening to the patient first, and confirming when i took 75cc of blood from his knee....sent it to your field so insurance would be satisfied
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Old Feb 8, 2014 | 02:49 AM
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