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Old Mar 28, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zibby43
I do not mean to hijack this thread but I thought it unnecessary to start a new one.

Does clear bra even do anything? I mean if a rock hits the car, isn't it going to tear right through the film?
A large enough rock may tear the film, but will then protect the paint. A rock big enough to tear the film (which is very tough) would likely cause significant paint damage (down to bare metal). Smaller rocks can marr and scratch the film, but some films (eXpel ultimate for example, have a "self healing" property which helps the scratch smooth out/go away. You are basically putting a replaceable/disposable layer between the debris and your paint which is harder and more expensive to fix.

Originally Posted by jimxyz
Is anyone putting a clear bra on a leased car? It's my first lease and I feel like i want to do it because I have always put one on my cars. But I guess I don't really have to worry about it - ?
If I lease my car I would NOT have gotten a clear bra. They won't ding you on small dings at lease end (at least BMW doesn't).

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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 01:25 AM
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No they paint corrected after clear bra was put on, y?
Originally Posted by vdubpower
so they are correcting the clear coat on a brand new clear bra???

paint correction should be done on the clear coat of the actual car, not the clear bra.....

down the road u can correct the clear bra, but it takes expert hands and technique/product to put a dual action polisher on the bra itself and not haze it...

in terms of opticoat, im not sold on it....seen some good, some bad things....its a hydrophobic polymer layer which is fine, but it deosnt last forever.....i just dont know if its something that the clear bras are made for.....i wouldnt want to affect the self healing properties of the clear bra by putting a harder polymer on it..
Just to clarify above, you're both correct . We polished the entire front end and mirrors lightly (after washing and decontaminating) before the Xpel PPF was applied in order to make the paint nicer and smooth for the application. After the PPF is applied, we go on to finish polishing the remaining car panels. After all the polishing is done on the clearcoat, the entire car was prepped for the coating and then coated with OptiCoat.

Because the film was brand new, we didn't want to nor did we need to polish it before the coating, but as dubpower said, we do sometimes very lightly polish used film on vehicles that want a full correction and then a coating application. This is done simply to slightly improve the condition of the film and allow for a better coating application.

As for OptiCoat, or other coatings for that matter, on top of the film, I was told at SEMA by Xpel reps that it the self healing properties would still be there as there's flex in the coatings as well (just as there is in paint, film, etc.). Other reputable detailers around the country have heard the same thing and some have experienced it in person, so I don't thin it will negative affect it whatsoever.

Lastly, we tend to stay away from Optimum's claims of 5yr to permanent claims and tell our clients realistically they can expect about 1-1.5yrs on the low end upwards of 2-3years durability. There are so many variables with these coatings and we try to be as honest as possible, whereas many "standard" detail shops simply try to sell it on the basis of "never wax your car again", which is far from the truth.

Hope that clears it up a bit!

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Originally Posted by zibby43
I do not mean to hijack this thread but I thought it unnecessary to start a new one.

Does clear bra even do anything? I mean if a rock hits the car, isn't it going to tear right through the film?
As x-ray said, it will only fail to protect the paint when some larger "projectiles" come at your paintwork. Aside from that, any decent quality film (we like Xpel most due to looks and quality) will prevent rock chips and keep the paint below looking pristine. Some owners get away with only a couple of paint chips over 3-5 years of ownership, whereas others have that "peppered" look on the entire front end even after only a few months. This all depends on the area you live in and the roads you drive on, but it's always a good investment in my opinion.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 02:40 AM
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excellent......appreciate the response

whats your guys opinion on cquartz.....my brother had it applied on his gt3rs....and is pretty disappointed so far.........thinks that the detailer just mickey moused him....even though we did see them put something on the car....i dunno

i stick with a nice wax, heck im happy with nxt2.0....cheap but very good
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 02:41 AM
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Thx for that Ivan! You did a great job on the car.

I was being sarcastic with vdub about "bra correction" lol. Even to the uninformed it would be pretty obvious that the surface needs to be prepped before applying the ppf.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 02:43 AM
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whatever....u were serious
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
whatever....u were serious
Negative "its the new thing bra correction" I figured u would clearly see that was a jab at you.

I've been detailing my own cars for a long time now, I had a flex da polisher b4 they became popular, and autopia was one of the first car related forums I ever joined.
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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I figured I'd post before people started calling us up for the newest and greatest "bra correction" . Glad you liked it!
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Old Mar 29, 2014 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
excellent......appreciate the response

whats your guys opinion on cquartz.....my brother had it applied on his gt3rs....and is pretty disappointed so far.........thinks that the detailer just mickey moused him....even though we did see them put something on the car....i dunno

i stick with a nice wax, heck im happy with nxt2.0....cheap but very good
I use CQuartz Finest as our top of the line coating because it's the most exclusive, expensive and hard to apply (2-coats), but I use OptiCoat even more believe it or not. I'm not sure about the regular CQuartz, but I do like Finest.

What exactly was your brother disappointed with regarding the Cquartz and also what detailer installed it? Regular CQuartz is available to anyone, so it can easily be applied improperly and with bad prep, lasting only a few months.
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lucci detail down in so-cal.....supposed to be very good....dunno what happened
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lucci detail down in so-cal.....supposed to be very good....dunno what happened
Hmm I'm not sure then. I never really heard anything good or bad about that shop.
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