xolinlevh

Hey all. So for fun yesterday i rented a 2014 E63 from Hertz, and absolutely loved it. I have not had that big a grin on my face in a long time. Ive decided i want to get one at some point in the next 6-8 months, so have been shopping around a bit to get some pricing (found a great CPO 2014 E63S with literally perfect options for 10k+ off). But at the same time im wondering if anyones seen any news about changes that may be coming in the 2015s. Given that both the C and S now feature the touch pad instead of the comand knob, is it safe to assume it will be integrated into the E? Any other rumored changes or updates?

Tjdehya

I wouldnt say its safe to assume because there are only two years left in the W212s life. However, I would say that if the C class is getting the touch pad and HUD then the E-class should at least get the same.
Big brother should at least have the same or better toys.

PeterUbers

How many miles were on the rental? What does it cost to rent the e63 per day?

Not to be off topic, but I Would hate to get a pre owned e63 that was a rental!

xolinlevh

Hmm, i mean they launched the brand new W222 in 14, and the 15s are changing to the touch pads. I was kinda amazed they made such a big change after just 1 year, rather then either doing it right at the beginning or waiting longer. Its by no means a deal breaker but that and the HUD being offered in the other sedans seems logical they bring it to the E

The one i rented had 150 miles on it, i was told only one person had rented it before me. $250 a day plus taxes. came to about 330 + a $5k deposit. Not very well equipped, had the surround cam/lane tracking but that was it, no Distronic, no pano, no keyless go. The one i found for sale isnt a pre owned rental. Totally loaded E63S, couple special order options on it as well. All the options i want, none of the ones i dont. Really bummed i cant swing it right now haha

mtimmy

$330 a day., that's pretty expensive,... if they rent it for the full 30 days ... ... within a few months., that's a brand new free car for them

xolinlevh

Yea it was an impulse splurge. Heading on a little day trip out to do some paint balling with friends. Wanted something more fun for the drive, originally was gonna get a convertible but saw the E63 when i got there and just couldnt pass it up. Fun thing is this is the second time ive rented a car from Hertz and ended up wanting to buy one :P Rented a E350 a couple years back, convinced me to upgrade from my C to my E

xxGenericSNxx

I've been talking to some guys at the AMG Private Lounge and they're hinting not too many changes for the 2015 E. Looks like we might finally get optional power folding mirrors in the US **maybe**. Haven't heard anything about HUD or touch pad and honestly don't know if I'd expect it with only two years in the life cycle.

Drive dynamic passenger seat and 3 zone climate control are a definite nono for the US MY15.

Tjdehya

The touchpad and the HUD were not ready for Mass production last year. I reading that MB was pretty bumbled that they couldn't get them ready in time for the S launch. Obviously that's the tech they would want to premier in the S class instead of the C.

mtimmy

3 zone climate ,. and the passenger multicontour is ACTUALLY a MUST.... I don't believe a 110k car dosen't even come with a pillar air vent.

TheOtherEric

Any interior changes next year would surely be minor since the E63 isn't due for anything new for a couple more years.

xolinlevh

Ahh. Didnt know it was a supply hangup. I dont 'need' either feature, but they sure would be cool to have

Tjdehya

These are options that are removed from the US built W212. Almost every other country gets them as well as folding mirrors.
I don't mind the fact that they are not standard features but the fact that we cant at least special order them irritates me.

otakki

Can't complain since we get them for such a steep discount compared to other countries.

sraza

per info I received no new changes for MY15, maybe color options..
but yea, no pillar vents, no 3 zone, no adaptive passenger seat, no headlight washers- even though we get a discounted price, for the amount of money it costs these just need to be available as standard or atleast an option...

xxGenericSNxx

Although our prices are cheaper, when you add all of those options back in after the fact... it adds up quickly.

xolinlevh

True. But I am always thankful for our prices regardless of option charges when comparing to a friend of mine in Australia. They paid just over 500k for their SLS, and 800k for the Aventador....

Tjdehya

I disagree.
Its not a big deal when you consider the fact that you are already spending over $100k.
Whats another $600 for folding mirrors, $1k for passenger multicontour seats, $2-3k for 3 or 4 zone climate controls.
While you would rather pay $100k for the car without those feature, I absolutely would not mind paying $105k for the same car with those features.
Thus we should at least have the "option", those that want it will pay for it, those that don't won't.

xxGenericSNxx

Oh I'm agreeing with you 100%. I would LOVELOVELOVE if we can add those options directly from the factory. But since that's not reality, instead what I will end up doing is order a brand new 2015 with all options possible for the US then spend much more after the fact to add multi-contour passenger, 3 zone, and power folding mirrors which will cost 2-3 times more than if the factory gave me the option of adding it on my order. So what I mean is that since I will go through the hassle of adding in said options, the price of the car will become much more bloated than the typically "low price" that the US gets and might be more in line with a Canadian priced car. Same experience I went through with the R by adding in some options not available here afterwards, same experience I'll go with when I order the E.

benyl

We don't get the multi contour passenger seat in Canada either. Really annoying after paying $134K for my wagon.

I don't know why US members are so hard up for folding mirrors. I almost never use them. 3 Zone climate is nice, but no the end of the world. Wife would appreciated the multi contour as I always drive when we are together.

xxGenericSNxx

I use the power folding mirrors on the R and S all the time. Only ~$600ish. Also, the switch panel looks dumb having a blank spot on, as you said, a $130k car.

I don't park in tight spaces but it's nice making the mirrors "narrow" to make the chances of someone walking by and scratching your carbon fiber mirrors less likely. =P

xolinlevh

how hard is it to retrofit in the power folding mirrors? I have always wanted them (granted i dont usually park anywhere where they are majorly important to have but would still be nice.....)

xxGenericSNxx

As far as factory retrofits go, power folding mirrors are on the easier end of the scale. I talked to MBenzNL about doing it and it's 750 Euro in parts (about 1,000 USD) and he said simple to do. Seems fairly straight forward, install the motors at the mirror housings and replace the switch panel. Maybe some minor programming involved. This will definitely be on my to do list if the 15s don't have it. He did, however, say the 3 zone and passenger multi-contour seat are much more involved. Still digging into doing those, though, since I want the car to be complete.

ace10

Before you buy the parts, be certain that this vendor is 100% able to retrofit the wing mirrors.

In fact, I would have them furnish the modification as a turn key.

On the PL, it was definitively stated by MBUSA that it would be nearly impossible to change the mirrors to fold. Mirrors are different. Control unit differences. And possibly wiring harness, too. Though I find the last one hard to believe.

BACnMercedes

$330 for a "day on a Disney ride," sign me up! (Of course it would be on a day that the Michelin test track or BMW Performance Center is open)

xxGenericSNxx

MBenzNL http://www.mbenznl.nl/ is the best resource for adding factory options after the fact. This guy is so good, he's put Distronic on a W203 C, a car that Distronic isn't even an option. He helped me with my active ventilated seat retrofit on my R and I've been inquiring about the power folding mirrors, 3 zone, and multicontour passenger seat. He said the mirrors are easy and no problem so I'll leave it at that. It'll be a very simple install.

Dealers/reps always say things aren't possible when they are. I never take no for an answer.