W212 AMG Discuss the W212 AMG's such as the E63

carbonio airbox didnt make any power :(

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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 08:34 PM
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e63 amg w212 6.3
carbonio airbox didnt make any power :(

Hi, as you know I was posting stock runs of my car with the row and carbonio airbox....
unluckily the car did not change in power with both the box's.
276.6rkw peak for both (stock and with carbonio).
Another amg did get 301kw stock but my throttle opening was at 50% the whole way but his car was at 80%...(he had the row airboxs with stock filters)


Quite disappointed, also my heat shield from the exhaust headers was missing for one side as the previous owner may have tinkered with the car.
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 08:42 PM
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That stuff is for looks only....
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 10:45 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
my carbon fiber interior produced a few hp more than that
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 12:57 AM
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they should not have fake dyno charts or fake power gains on their website is all I have to say.
BUT, with a dyno tune due to the 12% bigger volume I may be able to get 2-5hp more at the wheels..
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 01:38 AM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
return it
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 09:54 AM
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Ram air effect on the airbox when the car is moving wont be present on the dyno
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Ram air effect on the airbox when the car is moving wont be present on the dyno
There is only one thing getting rammed on these pricey aftermarket tuner parts...and it's not increased engine performance.
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 09:34 PM
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I guess whats happened has happened for me, $1500 down the drain.
Nothing can be done now..
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 09:48 PM
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How we burn $ on our amgs smh lol. U werent the first nor the last
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i drive them all, fast and hard
ask for refund man
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
ask for refund man
As much as I would love a refund, I doubt I would get one.
But one thing this post has done for future buyers of carbonio to not trust the fake power gains etc.
Bigger inlets would yes give more air intake but unless the inlets are changed on an e63 it wont matter.
I know for the c63 there are bigger air inlets out there which do work.
Not quite sure why anyone hasn't designed this for the e63.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Ok. Don't try
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 12:15 PM
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Ok. Don't try

Srsly. I don't get it.

The product is know to have a finish that fails. And now documented zero power gains.

That's a bad product. It's not as if the vendor is giving these things away. Hold their feet to the fire, and get your dosh back. No reason to play ben dover.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 01:33 PM
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OP, sorry to hear your story, but I am not at all surprised. Generally speaking, claims that airboxes and air filters make power are as reliable as snake oil.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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i drive them all, fast and hard
probably just pocket money for some....
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 04:59 PM
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I always pay with amex and print of ad for specifics... if I don't get what the selling is saying their products will do... then I don't mind shipping back on my dime but I'd like what's promised or $ back.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
Ok. Don't try
Ill give it a shot when I get the car back with the airbox taken off, I don't get it back until Wednesday or Friday.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 02:43 AM
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call them? show them the dyno charts? get explaination....we are all curious to see how they will rectify this
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 01:30 PM
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I've found Carbonio's customer service to be top notch. I'd give them a call since you're not satisfied with their product. The worst they'll say is no.
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im going to post dyno results up soon when I get my car back in two days, I think the end result was 447whp but I wont know for two days.
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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 10:26 AM
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Is that with your headers on or off? (can't remember if you got longtube or shorty)
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that will be with the aftermarket headers, 100cell cats and dynotune.
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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With these super sedans there are no bolt on instant horsepower gains. With the thousands of sensors and computers talking to each other to provide the exact setting for the best performance, they need exact information. By bolting something on the car without telling the computers what has been changed is a waste of time and money and could possibly damage your car. Most companies lie or conceal truths to sell their products. Some when caught will do the right thing and refund your money, other rely on the age old adage "buyer beware".
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Originally Posted by LJMartin
With these super sedans there are no bolt on instant horsepower gains. With the thousands of sensors and computers talking to each other to provide the exact setting for the best performance, they need exact information. By bolting something on the car without telling the computers what has been changed is a waste of time and money and could possibly damage your car. Most companies lie or conceal truths to sell their products. Some when caught will do the right thing and refund your money, other rely on the age old adage "buyer beware".


100% correct, also with these cars each motor is the same but different at the same time.
Some e63 6.3s come with 300kw at the wheels, some come with 276, some with more or less.
Each hand built and slightly different.
I've come to know this fact as when the guy showed 4 different e63s lined up stock from on a dyno they produced all different amounts of power.
Now in saying that if you go with renntech or any other company they will give you a generic tune which may or may not give your cars many gains or how it will affect the motor in the long run.

My whole idea of modifying this car changed when I found these little things out, so Im going with a custom dyno tune.
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