rory breaker

Hi folks - realize this could apply to any car, but curious who out there has the best laser/radar setup on their 212, specifically 14+ but not mandatory. Only reason I even specify is for installation purposes, if anyone has any thoughts specific to the car (IE, laser jammers work best when installed in _____ and the E has a perfect spot for the unit right behind ___ and underneath ____). But regardless of your year/car, who has a killer laser/radar setup, what is it, and why did you go that route?

Not looking for just a detector, want full 360deg integrated protection.

splab

I chose the Escort 9500ci with Laser Shifter Pro-technology front and rear. It was installed mid August 2014 and I am told that the Laser Shifter Pro-technology upgrade is a recent development as the prior version was not as effective. The installation was done by Benchmark Motoring in Bellevue Washington. I don't yet have any confirmed saves to report. But I just turned 1075 miles on the clock. I can tell you that it has warned me I was being hit with laser in the front 3 times and K band radar many times. There are lots of opinions out there on what is the best system. I don't know the answer. This was my choice and I hope it helps with yours.

Best of luck with your decision. Splab

splab

I should have sent you a picture of the display, which is in the rear view mirror. Benchmark had to send it out to have it embedded. So, you have to go without the rear view mirror (and blue tooth mic I learned) for a couple of days.

Splab

OWLY

Very nice install...I'm tempted to do something similar.

vdubpower

thats a nice install, i just use my redline the standard way, but i like what u did

so they hit u with K band in Wa? California is primarily Ka

Akando

I have a 9500 ci installed in my car. Radar head behind the grille and laser detectors in the corner of the grille. I have AntiLaser Priortity jammers installed front and rear. I believe they are the best on the market currently. Pricey but worth it.

KeepRtPassLeft

Best integrated combination is the AntiLaser Priority with the Beltronics STiR+ radar head. The Beltronics STiR+ is the sister to the escort 9500ci. Escort and Beltronics are different divisions of the same company.

otakki

Wow. That is a nice seamless install.

2012 merc amg

Yes very nice install. I wonder though if they can get you without radar proof? Say you were going 100 mph in a 55 zone and they saw it but the jammer got their equipment?

vdubpower

yeah absolutely, thats how i get tickets way back in the days

they will make their estimation based on flow of traffic.......they usually BS their numbers.....fight every ticket

Nanook

What he said

See my sig

splab

Rory, There is lots online about the Jammer integration decision (Anti Laser Priority v. Laser Shifter Pro etc). Most would agree that the radar portion (Beltronic Stir/Escort 9500ci) are top notch. I understand from several online tests I have reviewed that there is one relatively new laser out there called "Dragon-Eye" that was not jammed by the escort 9500ci at a recent testing. All others were lasers were successfully jammed by the escort. But I was assured that a firmware software upgrade was in the works for the Dragon Eye. In any event, I have not seen a full test of the AntiLaser Priority. But I have read that it will successfully jams the new Dragon Eye. Again, best of luck with your decision.

Splab

cnolke

I don't doubt that typical Oregon police and troopers are years away from the latest equipment and that "keeping up with the latest" isn't much of a concern.

However, this system is $1500+ installed, yes? I'd be worried that for that money I'd just have an officer pull me over and give me a ticket for his estimation of my speed regardless of what his device said (or didnt say). Particularly if the behavior was peculiar enough that it indicated a likely jammer. That's the kind of attention that a low-key black wagon doesn't need.

Of course sure... speed cameras need to be mitigated, but those are radar, correct? No jamming that without going illegal.

Nanook

As splab mentioned the new Poilscan and Ally (Dragon) guns are a threat to anything except the ALP..they are used extensively here and my ALP jams them every time. Our locals use the Dragoneye Lasers with cameras from overpasses extensively to mail a ticket to the speeder..which is why I arm with 3 heads in the rear btw..these new guns are quickly populating the American forces and it's only time they will likely be used extensively throughout the states..the other 2 large jammer co.s are unable to code a defense against these although one does alert to it...I suspect it's only time and they may come out with with either firmware or hardware to defend but ALP is a very aggressive company and are constantly coming out with improvements and firmware upgrades as/when needed...their hardware is top notch..not the cheap stuff as the others are..I have owned mostly all (LI, BEL,Escort,Blinder,V1, so I can advise with experience..I also run an ALP 4 head system in my Vette and a V1 although I prefer the Bel STiR+ because of it's gps/lockout capabilities..Midcity Engineering makes a nifty integration module for the BEL/Escort detectors into the CanBus for the Merc cars to show alerts on the DIS

Nanook

Yes these systems are costly and if you speed you eventually will be caught but why not run the best countermeasures..insurance and demerits are the biggest concern..

As for speed cameras the BEL STiR+ and 9500ix and Max run gps with an updatable database forewarning your approach to speed cameras etc from a regular updated database...you connect the device to update it every few months...with a subscription updates are sent to you and since the detector has gps after it encounters a signal at the same location it disables (locks out) the false after 3 repeats so eventually all falses are eliminated...something that is really annoying with the V1...although technology is now available to connect the V1 and others to your Blackberry or/and iphone to further control the device

rory breaker

This is extremely helpful all thanks. Learning a lot.

Couple q's:
- Checking out the 9500ci system, but cannot find the rear shifters to add, what am I missing?
- Nanook - whats the best way to procure the setup youre recommending (Bel + ALP)? Buy from an installer and have them do it, or buy somewhere bundled online, or buy somewhere separately online? Does the Bel system have the same social media aspect as the Escort - useful?

Nanook

I don't recommend the 9500ci..get the BEL STiR+ (detector) and ALP (jammer).. (BEL and Escort are the same co. and with the STiR+ you can filter out unused Ka band frequencies...do research on this ) go to this site
http://radarandlaserforum.com/forum.php?Go
you will learn everything you need to know and if you're stateside buy the ALP and BEL from Tom at BestRadarDetectors (excellent chap) or at KMPH.ca (Alex) in Canada http://www.kmph.ca/
Depending on where you are there is likely someone to do the install...ask Tom..I did my own

The 9500ci jammers are LAser Interceptor jammers and will not jam ALL guns like the new Dragon eye...ALP jams ALL lasers...although they are not infallible and the install of the heads is critical for a top performing sytem..I've tested both my vehicles with 3 types of guns including the new Dragon and both vehicles jam 100%...another interesting option on the ALP is with it's optional bluetooth module it alerts on your iphone..tells if hit front or rear and type of gun as well..

Nanook

BTW again I don't suggest you get the 9500ci but if you must to answer your question regarding the rear shifters....you just buy 2 additional front heads and they just plug into the rear ports of the cpu

biggking

LOL this took me 30 minutes to find! I had the same question.

https://www.escortradar.com/store/Shifter-Pack.html

KeepRtPassLeft

I second what Nanook said. Follow his advice, you won't go wrong. The 9500ci does not perform as well as the ALP/STiR+ for both radar detection and laser jamming. Why pay more and get less?

Nanook

Thanks KRPL..and to throw a slight twist to things..

The ALP cpu has the capability to accept input from the STiR+ antenna..yes just the antenna from the STiR+ package which consists of cpu/antenna/speaker/control module...so if you can find/buy (and you can) just the STiR+ antenna (the piece that is placed up front and senses radar) you can plug it into the ALP module (it has provisions for the BEL antenna) and have a fully functional radar system through the ALP along with notifications etc..the downfall of not installing the complete STiR+ system is you lose the gps false signal lock out and redlight notifications etc..the antenna alone is cheaper than the complete system whole but not likely that much cheaper...but it can be done...some run both radar systems .STiR+ and STiR+ antenna through ALP by placing one radar antenna fore and one aft although only a front facing is needed as the STiR+ is so sensitive it will alert to rear signals..all this may be confusing but if you join the forum above eveyone there is most acommodating and enthusiastic to welcome new members and share their knowledge

rory breaker

Awesome, doing some reading to get smarter on this. Not looking to become an expert, will look for a local installer w a great rep who is on top of the latest tech. What's an install typically run for a straightforward package (ie stir, ALP w 5 sensors?) and is there anything not reversible (ie drilling through panels)? Thanks all.

Nanook

Pure speculation but I'd guess $2500 for hardware and $1k-$1.5 for install..all reversible with no holes...but also certainly doable by yourself with plenty of knowledge available on the forum or from myself..

OldBimmerGuy

I recently purchased a 2010 E63 with integrated Escort 9500ci detector and laser shifter. It gives me vocal response to X and Ka band radar but not Laser and the differing alerts do not show up in my instrument cluster at all. Do any of you know what the solution to this is? Is it a failure of the integration module? I did a reset on the detector but so far, no joy. Thanks for any help.