Cross shopped E63 AMG Wagon and G63 AMG SUV?
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Cross shopped E63 AMG Wagon and G63 AMG SUV?
Hey guys, just curious if anyone has cross-shopped these two vehicles?
Am interested in the E63 AMG Wagon as it's just incredible with it's speed and cargo space. I just found out they redid the interior on the G63, and with the AMG version + Renntech we are almost talking 650 HP/TQ.
Seriously interested in it's off-road capabilities (yes, I am one of those crazies that would actually off-road a G63 AMG). I love the wagon and it's speed but obviously won't be able to off-road in it. The G63 AMG is a bit slower but it's off-road credentials are amazing, and it just has a serious "presence".
BTW look's like I may be moving to Alaska so a vehicle that can handle some serious weather is a boon.
Pro's/con's for those who have cross-shopped?
Am interested in the E63 AMG Wagon as it's just incredible with it's speed and cargo space. I just found out they redid the interior on the G63, and with the AMG version + Renntech we are almost talking 650 HP/TQ.
Seriously interested in it's off-road capabilities (yes, I am one of those crazies that would actually off-road a G63 AMG). I love the wagon and it's speed but obviously won't be able to off-road in it. The G63 AMG is a bit slower but it's off-road credentials are amazing, and it just has a serious "presence".
BTW look's like I may be moving to Alaska so a vehicle that can handle some serious weather is a boon.
Pro's/con's for those who have cross-shopped?
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I did.
G63 - better resale/depreciation rate - but in my mind that was the only advantage; didn't like the way it drove. High center of gravity. Due to the lower depreciation I would expect it to be a bit cheaper to run overall vs the E63.
G63 - better resale/depreciation rate - but in my mind that was the only advantage; didn't like the way it drove. High center of gravity. Due to the lower depreciation I would expect it to be a bit cheaper to run overall vs the E63.
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'14 E63S, '13 G550, '06 E320 cdi, and a bunch of other stuff.
We have a G550 and the E63 sedan.
I found precious little to draw me up to the G63 from the G550. Not much difference in acceleration. Exterior appearance differences are subtle. Interiors are a bit nicer in the AMG.
The price delta was $20K+. And, TBH, I find the speed and handling plenty scary enough in the G550, so more speed was simply not a great idea. IMO.
For winter weather, there won't be any comparison. Our G wagen wears real Nokian snow tires (not winters) and can get through 2,3,4X the accumulation that would float the E. On hard pack, and typical lower 48 mild winter weather, the E will probably be as good, if not better than the G if shod with serious rubber.
Drive the G wagen. It's really awful. Floaty and tippy. And a turning radius similar to a paddleboat. But yeah, it is a beastly rig. And it fit our needs for an armageddon-mobile perfectly.
To me, the M273 motor in the G550 actually has a more fitting exhaust note than the TT M157 in the G63.
Give the base G wagen a look. Gently push it, and then figure out if you really feel the need for more power. Both models are in the 5.X second to 60 range.
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I found precious little to draw me up to the G63 from the G550. Not much difference in acceleration. Exterior appearance differences are subtle. Interiors are a bit nicer in the AMG.
The price delta was $20K+. And, TBH, I find the speed and handling plenty scary enough in the G550, so more speed was simply not a great idea. IMO.
For winter weather, there won't be any comparison. Our G wagen wears real Nokian snow tires (not winters) and can get through 2,3,4X the accumulation that would float the E. On hard pack, and typical lower 48 mild winter weather, the E will probably be as good, if not better than the G if shod with serious rubber.
Drive the G wagen. It's really awful. Floaty and tippy. And a turning radius similar to a paddleboat. But yeah, it is a beastly rig. And it fit our needs for an armageddon-mobile perfectly.
To me, the M273 motor in the G550 actually has a more fitting exhaust note than the TT M157 in the G63.
Give the base G wagen a look. Gently push it, and then figure out if you really feel the need for more power. Both models are in the 5.X second to 60 range.
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Comparing the G wagon to the E63 wagon is pretty much like comparing apples to oranges. One is a truck and one is a car. Obviously the G63 will have much more utility, a significantly higher center of gravity and ground clearance and be much better in the snow. But it will be a pig to drive as compared with the E63 wagon which is a rocket with a low center of gravity and incredible driving pleasure.
Of course, if you were going to be stationed somewhere with very heavy snow amounts and blowing snow you might need the higher ground clearance that G offers. My advice is to test drive both of them and then decide because they're so different.
Of course, if you were going to be stationed somewhere with very heavy snow amounts and blowing snow you might need the higher ground clearance that G offers. My advice is to test drive both of them and then decide because they're so different.
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If your headed to Alaska then I think the G will be the better option due to the amount of snow you will be receiving...that is unless you get the wagon and a nice 4x4 truck for the real snowy days
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If your headed to Alaska then I think the G will be the better option due to the amount of snow you will be receiving...that is unless you get the wagon and a nice 4x4 truck for the real snowy days
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Comparing the G wagon to the E63 wagon is pretty much like comparing apples to oranges. One is a truck and one is a car. Obviously the G63 will have much more utility, a significantly higher center of gravity and ground clearance and be much better in the snow. But it will be a pig to drive as compared with the E63 wagon which is a rocket with a low center of gravity and incredible driving pleasure.
The other thing to consider is that the G wagon looks completely hideous.
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We have a G550 and the E63 sedan.
I found precious little to draw me up to the G63 from the G550. Not much difference in acceleration. Exterior appearance differences are subtle. Interiors are a bit nicer in the AMG.
The price delta was $20K+. And, TBH, I find the speed and handling plenty scary enough in the G550, so more speed was simply not a great idea. IMO.
For winter weather, there won't be any comparison. Our G wagen wears real Nokian snow tires (not winters) and can get through 2,3,4X the accumulation that would float the E. On hard pack, and typical lower 48 mild winter weather, the E will probably be as good, if not better than the G if shod with serious rubber.
Drive the G wagen. It's really awful. Floaty and tippy. And a turning radius similar to a paddleboat. But yeah, it is a beastly rig. And it fit our needs for an armageddon-mobile perfectly.
To me, the M273 motor in the G550 actually has a more fitting exhaust note than the TT M157 in the G63.
Give the base G wagen a look. Gently push it, and then figure out if you really feel the need for more power. Both models are in the 5.X second to 60 range.
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I found precious little to draw me up to the G63 from the G550. Not much difference in acceleration. Exterior appearance differences are subtle. Interiors are a bit nicer in the AMG.
The price delta was $20K+. And, TBH, I find the speed and handling plenty scary enough in the G550, so more speed was simply not a great idea. IMO.
For winter weather, there won't be any comparison. Our G wagen wears real Nokian snow tires (not winters) and can get through 2,3,4X the accumulation that would float the E. On hard pack, and typical lower 48 mild winter weather, the E will probably be as good, if not better than the G if shod with serious rubber.
Drive the G wagen. It's really awful. Floaty and tippy. And a turning radius similar to a paddleboat. But yeah, it is a beastly rig. And it fit our needs for an armageddon-mobile perfectly.
To me, the M273 motor in the G550 actually has a more fitting exhaust note than the TT M157 in the G63.
Give the base G wagen a look. Gently push it, and then figure out if you really feel the need for more power. Both models are in the 5.X second to 60 range.
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As posted above. At speeds which are "safe" to drive the G wagen (ie 0-60) the difference is not significant. High 5's versus low 5's. No matter the data source. That's not much in my books.
A night and day difference would be the low 3's of an E63 versus the mid 4's of the E550.
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I hear you on the long distance gas mileage jmg. The drive from Fairbanks to Anchorage and back ain't no joke. Does MB sell a vehicle in the USA that has a diesel and a low-range transfer case like the G63? The only vehicle I can find that can off-road with a low-range transfer case and a diesel in the US is the Jeep Grand Cherokee.
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Maybe get both, a used G and a used E63amg wagon. This would be less than the price of a new either E63 or G63 and you could keep the wagon clean and only drive it in the good weather, that's what I would do. Maybe you could find a European model G used which is called the G 350 and it has the Diesel V6 that is very good on fuel, not sure what would be involved registering it in Alaska or just get a used Jeep Cherokee or a new Demo, those new ones with the Diesels are suppose to be pretty good, or just stay away from the diesel as it's so cold in Alaska and go with the Cherokee V8 model.
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As posted above. At speeds which are "safe" to drive the G wagen (ie 0-60) the difference is not significant. High 5's versus low 5's. No matter the data source. That's not much in my books.
A night and day difference would be the low 3's of an E63 versus the mid 4's of the E550.
A night and day difference would be the low 3's of an E63 versus the mid 4's of the E550.
The G550 does the 1/4 mile in 14.7 @ 92.1
The E63 does the 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 121.8
The E550 does the 1/4 mile in 13.0 @ 111
The G63's trap speed is 13 MPH faster then the G550. That's a massive difference. The E63 traps about 11 MPH faster then the E550. Also a massive difference. Would you say that the E63 isn't that much faster then an E550? I'm guessing, no?
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The G63 does the 1/4 mile in 13.4 @ 105.2
The G550 does the 1/4 mile in 14.7 @ 92.1
The E63 does the 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 121.8
The E550 does the 1/4 mile in 13.0 @ 111
The G63's trap speed is 13 MPH faster then the G550. That's a massive difference. The E63 traps about 11 MPH faster then the E550. Also a massive difference. Would you say that the E63 isn't that much faster then an E550? I'm guessing, no?
The G550 does the 1/4 mile in 14.7 @ 92.1
The E63 does the 1/4 mile in 11.6 @ 121.8
The E550 does the 1/4 mile in 13.0 @ 111
The G63's trap speed is 13 MPH faster then the G550. That's a massive difference. The E63 traps about 11 MPH faster then the E550. Also a massive difference. Would you say that the E63 isn't that much faster then an E550? I'm guessing, no?
When you find me doing 105 or even 92mph in a G wagen it will be the first and probably last time. Don't know where you live, but around here with traffic, rolling terrain, two lane roads, deer, and weather there's absolutely no chance of it. A shipping container on solid axles with the aero of a barn is simply not a great place to cover miles rapidly.
Regarding the W212: A vehicle that is capable of 3.2 second to 60mph puts it up there among the fastest cars in the world. Mid 4's is pedestrian by comparison. The difference between high 5's and low 5's wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of drivers.
I have no interest in carrying on a silly ongoing bench racing exercise. I've driven both wagens, and in any instance I'd care to be in, they are close enough in acceleration for it not to be a factor to me. I don't drive one quarter mile at a time. I don't regularly pull hole shots from stop lights. I don't shop for utility vehicles based whether it made the trip to Affalterbach, or not.
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When you find me doing 105 or even 92mph in a G wagen it will be the first and probably last time. Don't know where you live, but around here with traffic, rolling terrain, two lane roads, deer, and weather there's absolutely no chance of it. A shipping container on solid axles with the aero of a barn is simply not a great place to cover miles rapidly.
Regarding the W212: A vehicle that is capable of 3.2 second to 60mph puts it up there among the fastest cars in the world. Mid 4's is pedestrian by comparison. The difference between high 5's and low 5's wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of drivers.
I have no interest in carrying on a silly ongoing bench racing exercise. I've driven both wagens, and in any instance I'd care to be in, they are close enough in acceleration for it not to be a factor to me. I don't drive one quarter mile at a time. I don't regularly pull hole shots from stop lights. I don't shop for utility vehicles based whether it made the trip to Affalterbach, or not.
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Regarding the W212: A vehicle that is capable of 3.2 second to 60mph puts it up there among the fastest cars in the world. Mid 4's is pedestrian by comparison. The difference between high 5's and low 5's wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of drivers.
I have no interest in carrying on a silly ongoing bench racing exercise. I've driven both wagens, and in any instance I'd care to be in, they are close enough in acceleration for it not to be a factor to me. I don't drive one quarter mile at a time. I don't regularly pull hole shots from stop lights. I don't shop for utility vehicles based whether it made the trip to Affalterbach, or not.
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I do like hole shots from a stoplight but I need 5 seats and a good sized trunk. This is why a Renntech tuned E63 S is perfect for my needs.
If I lived in Alaska I would certainly consider a G wagon due to the high ground clearance. I might very well opt for the G63 over the G550 but only for the somewhat greater acceleration-- certainly not for driving at very high speeds. Both the G550 and G63 are limited to 130 mph but I could never see self exceeding 85 in those tanks.
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When you find me doing 105 or even 92mph in a G wagen it will be the first and probably last time. Don't know where you live, but around here with traffic, rolling terrain, two lane roads, deer, and weather there's absolutely no chance of it. A shipping container on solid axles with the aero of a barn is simply not a great place to cover miles rapidly.
Regarding the W212: A vehicle that is capable of 3.2 second to 60mph puts it up there among the fastest cars in the world. Mid 4's is pedestrian by comparison. The difference between high 5's and low 5's wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of drivers.
I have no interest in carrying on a silly ongoing bench racing exercise. I've driven both wagens, and in any instance I'd care to be in, they are close enough in acceleration for it not to be a factor to me. I don't drive one quarter mile at a time. I don't regularly pull hole shots from stop lights. I don't shop for utility vehicles based whether it made the trip to Affalterbach, or not.
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Regarding the W212: A vehicle that is capable of 3.2 second to 60mph puts it up there among the fastest cars in the world. Mid 4's is pedestrian by comparison. The difference between high 5's and low 5's wouldn't even be noticed by the majority of drivers.
I have no interest in carrying on a silly ongoing bench racing exercise. I've driven both wagens, and in any instance I'd care to be in, they are close enough in acceleration for it not to be a factor to me. I don't drive one quarter mile at a time. I don't regularly pull hole shots from stop lights. I don't shop for utility vehicles based whether it made the trip to Affalterbach, or not.
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Not only have I driven both wagons but I've owned both wagons. So, I'm not bench racing. I still have the G63. Now modified to a "Fast and Furious" 700 HP. It's my 5th G. There is absolutely no comparison between the G63 and G550. The G63, stock, accelerates so much harder. If that means I'm living life like you say "one quarter mile at a time" so be it! Haven't heard that one in awhile.
I live in Colorado. Yes, we have the occasional rolling hill and deer. We even get snow, like you, once in awhile!
There's something cool, in my opinion, about being able to run the quarter mile in the 12's after completing Hell's Gate and Poison Spider in Moab. It's not for everyone but, man, I love it! The ultimate Alaska truck, IMO.
When I feel like living a "1/4 mile (or a mile) at a time" I drive this:
Sorry for taking this off topic. I'm done now.
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Yes I agree that pulling extralegal speeds in a vehicle that tall is asking to meet one's maker. No amount of engine power can fix such a high center of gravity. I would never consider a vehicle that tall. But then again, I will never be living in Alaska.
I do like hole shots from a stoplight but I need 5 seats and a good sized trunk. This is why a Renntech tuned E63 S is perfect for my needs.
If I lived in Alaska I would certainly consider a G wagon due to the high ground clearance. I might very well opt for the G63 over the G550 but only for the somewhat greater acceleration-- certainly not for driving at very high speeds. Both the G550 and G63 are limited to 130 mph but I could never see self exceeding 85 in those tanks.
I do like hole shots from a stoplight but I need 5 seats and a good sized trunk. This is why a Renntech tuned E63 S is perfect for my needs.
If I lived in Alaska I would certainly consider a G wagon due to the high ground clearance. I might very well opt for the G63 over the G550 but only for the somewhat greater acceleration-- certainly not for driving at very high speeds. Both the G550 and G63 are limited to 130 mph but I could never see self exceeding 85 in those tanks.
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Wow, very clever "Fast and Furious" quote. Especially coming from someone who drives an E63. Awesome car BTW.
Not only have I driven both wagons but I've owned both wagons. So, I'm not bench racing. I still have the G63. Now modified to a "Fast and Furious" 700 HP. It's my 5th G. There is absolutely no comparison between the G63 and G550. The G63, stock, accelerates so much harder. If that means I'm living life like you say "one quarter mile at a time" so be it! Haven't heard that one in awhile.
I live in Colorado. Yes, we have the occasional rolling hill and deer. We even get snow, like you, once in awhile!
There's something cool, in my opinion, about being able to run the quarter mile in the 12's after completing Hell's Gate and Poison Spider in Moab. It's not for everyone but, man, I love it! The ultimate Alaska truck, IMO.
When I feel like living a "1/4 mile (or a mile) at a time" I drive this:
Sorry for taking this off topic. I'm done now.
Not only have I driven both wagons but I've owned both wagons. So, I'm not bench racing. I still have the G63. Now modified to a "Fast and Furious" 700 HP. It's my 5th G. There is absolutely no comparison between the G63 and G550. The G63, stock, accelerates so much harder. If that means I'm living life like you say "one quarter mile at a time" so be it! Haven't heard that one in awhile.
I live in Colorado. Yes, we have the occasional rolling hill and deer. We even get snow, like you, once in awhile!
There's something cool, in my opinion, about being able to run the quarter mile in the 12's after completing Hell's Gate and Poison Spider in Moab. It's not for everyone but, man, I love it! The ultimate Alaska truck, IMO.
When I feel like living a "1/4 mile (or a mile) at a time" I drive this:
Sorry for taking this off topic. I'm done now.
G63 would make no sense for me living in New York City. E63 S is a far better go anywhere do anything car for the NYC area. But if I lived in Colorado or Alaska I could definitely see having it as one of my vehicles.
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