C63 507 vs E63 vs E63S
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C63 507 vs E63 vs E63S
I could use some advice. This summer I'm going to start having a 100 mile drive a couple times a week. I currently own a 2014 C63 507, but I'm thinking of trading it in for an E63 for the extra comfort (massaging seat!) and fuel efficiency.
Right now I can get a fair value for my 507. There is a 2014 E63 available in a couple weeks. I will be traveling and won't need a car for a few months and the dealer, who I have a good relationship with, said he would look around the US for an E63 S while I'm gone (can't guarantee time, frame, color, options, cost, mileage, etc.) and have it for me when I get back.
Is the difference between the E63 and the E63 S great enough that I should pass on the non-S model and take a little risk? I live in Germany so the raised speed limit would be nice. I was considering tuning and therefore removing the speed limiter, but was told by Eurocharged the handheld doesn't work on the biturbos. I was reading how expensive repairs are on the forum and how many of you even purchased extended warranties and don't want to void anything if that is the case.
So is the E63 that much better than the C 63? Is the S-model that much better than the non-S to take the risk and have to rent a car for a few weeks if the dealer can't get an S-model by the time I come back?
C63 has 14,500 miles and mods in my signature. E63 is 2014 with 9,000 miles.
Right now I can get a fair value for my 507. There is a 2014 E63 available in a couple weeks. I will be traveling and won't need a car for a few months and the dealer, who I have a good relationship with, said he would look around the US for an E63 S while I'm gone (can't guarantee time, frame, color, options, cost, mileage, etc.) and have it for me when I get back.
Is the difference between the E63 and the E63 S great enough that I should pass on the non-S model and take a little risk? I live in Germany so the raised speed limit would be nice. I was considering tuning and therefore removing the speed limiter, but was told by Eurocharged the handheld doesn't work on the biturbos. I was reading how expensive repairs are on the forum and how many of you even purchased extended warranties and don't want to void anything if that is the case.
So is the E63 that much better than the C 63? Is the S-model that much better than the non-S to take the risk and have to rent a car for a few weeks if the dealer can't get an S-model by the time I come back?
C63 has 14,500 miles and mods in my signature. E63 is 2014 with 9,000 miles.
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"but I'm thinking of trading it in for an E63 for the extra comfort (massaging seat!) and fuel efficiency."
I assume this was a joke????????
Go for the "S" its a monster especially on your roads.
I assume this was a joke????????
Go for the "S" its a monster especially on your roads.
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The massaging seat is a joke... It's a glorified linens and things shiatsu pillow and doesn't do much for me
Get the 'S ... It's worth it
Get the 'S ... It's worth it
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What is the price difference between the e63 and the e63 S? Also if you plan on modding the e63 like your 507 don't bother with getting a S model as you can get a tune from Renntech or Alpha for $3000 that will beat a stock S model...if you are going to keep it stock get the S model it's worth it.
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I traded my 507 in for a e63 wagon... with the kids and moving every couple years the C was just to small. The wife would only let me get the wagon cause it could haul more... I didn't tell her the wagon was only the s model. So she thinks I got more mature by getting the hauler but I just wanted the power.
To me in the limited driving I've done (thanks Boston winter) the cars are night and day different in general. I'll miss the C, but do no regret the change. But like the others have said if you are going to mod it save the money and get a tune.
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So she thinks I got more mature by getting the hauler but I just wanted the power.To me in the limited driving I've done (thanks Boston winter) the cars are night and day different in general. I'll miss the C, but do no regret the change. But like the others have said if you are going to mod it save the money and get a tune.
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E63 Vs C63 not really a comparison. They are different categories.
C63 is raw/loud and fun to drive.
E63 is luxurious/comfy/spacious and fast.
2 different worlds. I thought a long time about buying an e63 wagon. I drove one and figured it wasn't what I was looking for at the moment. Although the ride was great it didn't put the same smile on my face as the one I had when I first drove a C63.
So I would recommend you to drive test one and see if it suits you.
As well E63 are less popular than E63S therefore you could get great deals on used ones. Get a tune and voila!
If you can keep the C63 and get an E63 you'll have the best of both worlds. What I will probably do at some point. GL
C63 is raw/loud and fun to drive.
E63 is luxurious/comfy/spacious and fast.
2 different worlds. I thought a long time about buying an e63 wagon. I drove one and figured it wasn't what I was looking for at the moment. Although the ride was great it didn't put the same smile on my face as the one I had when I first drove a C63.
So I would recommend you to drive test one and see if it suits you.
As well E63 are less popular than E63S therefore you could get great deals on used ones. Get a tune and voila!
If you can keep the C63 and get an E63 you'll have the best of both worlds
. What I will probably do at some point. GL
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Will be heading to Virginia in August, so I'm not sure the 3 months I'd have to really use it this summer is worth it. Since owning the 507, I've average 14.7 mpg. The E has a better claimed rating of about 33% and I'm sure the stop/start feature will help me in the traffic and lights along the drive from Arlington area to Charlottesville.
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I traded my 507 in for a e63 wagon... with the kids and moving every couple years the C was just to small. The wife would only let me get the wagon cause it could haul more... I didn't tell her the wagon was only the s model. So she thinks I got more mature by getting the hauler but I just wanted the power.
To me in the limited driving I've done (thanks Boston winter) the cars are night and day different in general. I'll miss the C, but do no regret the change. But like the others have said if you are going to mod it save the money and get a tune.
Edward
So she thinks I got more mature by getting the hauler but I just wanted the power.To me in the limited driving I've done (thanks Boston winter) the cars are night and day different in general. I'll miss the C, but do no regret the change. But like the others have said if you are going to mod it save the money and get a tune.
Edward
Not sure if I'd tune it or not as I wouldn't want to void the warranty. Does anyone know if a tune would void a Extended Third Party warranty if the work is done at an Indy shop? I would assumed they wouldn't be able to detect the tune like MB could.
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What is the price difference between the e63 and the e63 S? Also if you plan on modding the e63 like your 507 don't bother with getting a S model as you can get a tune from Renntech or Alpha for $3000 that will beat a stock S model...if you are going to keep it stock get the S model it's worth it.
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Will be heading to Virginia in August, so I'm not sure the 3 months I'd have to really use it this summer is worth it. Since owning the 507, I've average 14.7 mpg. The E has a better claimed rating of about 33% and I'm sure the stop/start feature will help me in the traffic and lights along the drive from Arlington area to Charlottesville.
Mine is the S and here is the mileage I got 22.8 mpg after a long day of driving at mostly 70-80 mph in Sport+ mode. Also my average since new of 17.8 mpg over 3000 miles of mixed city ang highway.
If you plan to modify the end results will be the same if you start with a E63 or E63S. The S comes with the LSD, rear Limited Slip Differential wich can be added later to a regular E if needed.
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The E63 is really comfy and I enjoy the massaging feature on long drives.
Mine is the S and here is the mileage I got 22.8 mpg after a long day of driving at mostly 70-80 mph in Sport+ mode. Also my average since new of 17.8 mpg over 3000 miles of mixed city ang highway.
If you plan to modify the end results will be the same if you start with a E63 or E63S. The S comes with the LSD, rear Limited Slip Differential wich can be added later to a regular E if needed.
Mine is the S and here is the mileage I got 22.8 mpg after a long day of driving at mostly 70-80 mph in Sport+ mode. Also my average since new of 17.8 mpg over 3000 miles of mixed city ang highway.
If you plan to modify the end results will be the same if you start with a E63 or E63S. The S comes with the LSD, rear Limited Slip Differential wich can be added later to a regular E if needed.
I'm not sure if I'd mod the E like I have the C. This model of C63 and its engine have been around for a while now and I'm confident in it as a product. I'm still doing homework on the E63 with the biturbo's and concerned an issue like the M156 headbolt may arise. I'd love to tune it and throw on a Quaife LSD, but would fear voiding the warranty and have a massive bill jump out.
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I owned a C63 before buying my E63 and have track time in the 507.
The E is way more car, but costs more too.
The E is a true 4 season, all situations supercar. It is better than the C in every way except sound and that initial throttle response you get from an NA motor.
If you are spending a decent amount of time on the german autobahn which the E63 is basically designed for it should be a no brainer!
The E is way more car, but costs more too.
The E is a true 4 season, all situations supercar. It is better than the C in every way except sound and that initial throttle response you get from an NA motor.
If you are spending a decent amount of time on the german autobahn which the E63 is basically designed for it should be a no brainer!
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I owned a C63 before buying my E63 and have track time in the 507.
The E is way more car, but costs more too.
The E is a true 4 season, all situations supercar. It is better than the C in every way except sound and that initial throttle response you get from an NA motor.
If you are spending a decent amount of time on the german autobahn which the E63 is basically designed for it should be a no brainer!
The E is way more car, but costs more too.
The E is a true 4 season, all situations supercar. It is better than the C in every way except sound and that initial throttle response you get from an NA motor.
If you are spending a decent amount of time on the german autobahn which the E63 is basically designed for it should be a no brainer!
I don't know if the E63 can beat the 507 as an autobahn car. The road surface is usually in great shape so the firmness doesn't matter. What does matter is having those nostrils on the hood that gets the Audi's and GTI's who think they're fast out of my way and in the right lane. A buddy who has a modded IS F was surprised, because they never move over for him in his Lexus
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I'm jealous of you being able to drive an AMG beast on unrestricted roads!
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So update. I ran the VIN (WDDHF9CB4EA930400) on the E63 that will be for sale through autocheck. It came through as a rental fleet vehicle.
I'm on the fence on whether this should be a deal breaker or not. Some assumptions I've built up:
1. I doubt it when through the prescribed break in process
2. It is a rental car so it got the snot driven out of it
3. It is a high priced rental car, maybe the renters were used to said performance and didn't drive the snot out of it
What do you guys think? I was planning on doing the Eurocharged tune, but if it was a rental I'm paranoid something will go amiss.
I'm on the fence on whether this should be a deal breaker or not. Some assumptions I've built up:
1. I doubt it when through the prescribed break in process
2. It is a rental car so it got the snot driven out of it
3. It is a high priced rental car, maybe the renters were used to said performance and didn't drive the snot out of it
What do you guys think? I was planning on doing the Eurocharged tune, but if it was a rental I'm paranoid something will go amiss.
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There are two camps of thoughts on the proper break-in process. One is to drive it hard. So I wouldn't worry about the break-in process.
As for the rental car, it's almost for sure it has been driven hard due to the the mentality of those willing to fork over the cash to drive it. Driven hard is okay since AMG's are designed for that. Just make sure it's not abused and have damages due to that.
As for the rental car, it's almost for sure it has been driven hard due to the the mentality of those willing to fork over the cash to drive it. Driven hard is okay since AMG's are designed for that. Just make sure it's not abused and have damages due to that.
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As for Nürburgring times, unless we are talking Black Series the E63 S is the quicker vehicle according to Sport Auto - 7:55 for the E63 S verses 8:01 for the C63 P31 coupe and 8:13 for a pre facelift sedan. One more comparison is the Lightning Lap at VIR, where the E63 S turned a 3:00.1 compared to 3:06.3 for the C63 coupe and 3:00.7 for the 2015 BMW M4 - quite impressive considering the heft and purpose of the E63 S. I love my 4matic AWD
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At AMGDA, the C63s were regularly told to pull over in order to allow the faster cars through. The "faster" cars included facelifted non S-model E63's.
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I've owned some hellaciously fast cars. Even so: Every time I rent a high performance car, I make sure I get my money's worth. 
However, the rentals I use (Hertz) are usually well taken-care of and, I'm assuming, maintained properly.
However, the rentals I use (Hertz) are usually well taken-care of and, I'm assuming, maintained properly.
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Ya. A tough choice a head of me. I did see a used S for sale in Ky for same price and miles with more options on MB's CPO site. Going to call the shop here to see if he can get that one for me. That would check more boxes for me.
