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Engineering update: Alpha 5.5L Biturbo Carbon Fiber Intake System FIRST PROTOTYPE

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Old 11-12-2015, 06:32 PM
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We will be installing one next week on an Alpha 9 E63S project. Will surely post up some vids and pics when completed.
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Originally Posted by dav461
Pricing will be $4395.
If you want to change your centre cover (with name and mb logo) to carbon it will cost another $395, which is very good price. Will be released in a week.
Was hoping it was under 3500 which is prob the ceiling id be willing to pay. Who knows if others buy and put up great numbers I might take the plunge..
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Was hoping it was under 3500 which is prob the ceiling id be willing to pay. Who knows if others buy and put up great numbers I might take the plunge..
Shouldn't expect great numbers. I don't think so. Was hoping as well for a bit cheaper price.
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group buy???
If it will lower price a lot than why not... Should someone help us like their representative or dealer.
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If it will lower price a lot than why not... Should someone help us like their representative or dealer.
maybe something like 20 people for 20% discount?

i will be first to sign up :
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if such discount is possible, I'm next to sign.
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Originally Posted by dav461
Shouldn't expect great numbers. I don't think so. Was hoping as well for a bit cheaper price.
The rep from AMS wrote somewhere on here initial test showed 30whp from the intake. Thats significant power, just have to see if its consistent.
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Originally Posted by gaspam
maybe something like 20 people for 20% discount?

i will be first to sign up :
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The rep from AMS wrote somewhere on here initial test showed 30whp from the intake. Thats significant power, just have to see if its consistent.
So it's about 34 Hp with 10% loss. Should see graph on stock car with Nm increase
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Originally Posted by Tal@ACGAutomotive
We will be installing one next week on an Alpha 9 E63S project. Will surely post up some vids and pics when completed.
did this happen? would love to see it and curious how hard it is to install.... only hard part looks to be getting to the clamps on turbo
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Originally Posted by gaspam
did this happen? would love to see it and curious how hard it is to install.... only hard part looks to be getting to the clamps on turbo
Oh it's happening......





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nice!

did you have to drop the motor just for the airbox install or was that because you are swapping the turbos too?
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No we only had the motor out for the turbos and downpipes.

I will say it's much simpler to install those snorkel tubes with the engine out but AMS has written very detailed and specific instructions for them if the engine is still in the car.

More to come on this one.... 900hp wagons are kinda cool and all.
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i drive them all, fast and hard
so are u guys building a mutant

weistec turbos and downpipes
with the ams air box?
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Originally Posted by vdubpower
so are u guys building a mutant

weistec turbos and downpipes
with the ams air box?
Kinda but not really... Mostly AMS parts.

AMS ECU Calibration
AMS Alpha 9 Turbos
AMS Carbon Airbox
AMS Coolant Heat Exchanger and Coolant Expansion System
Weistec Downpipes
Renntech Mufflers
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Kinda but not really... Mostly AMS parts.

AMS ECU Calibration
AMS Alpha 9 Turbos
AMS Carbon Airbox
AMS Coolant Heat Exchanger and Coolant Expansion System
Weistec Downpipes
Renntech Mufflers

what made you go with weistec for the downpipes/renntech mufflers instead of keeping it all AMS? did you see a power benefit to using the weistec/renntech vs AMS?
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Originally Posted by gaspam
what made you go with weistec for the downpipes/renntech mufflers instead of keeping it all AMS? did you see a power benefit to using the weistec/renntech vs AMS?
AMS unfortunately didn't have a bridge pipe replacement at this time but I know one is coming shortly.
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This was on a 4matic S model that already had our tune and full exhaust. The test was done before and after on this car and it picked up 30whp over the stock airbox setup.

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sounds pretty similar to the E55 guys swapping out to a bigger throttle body - real world gains by adding more air to these venerable motors
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Would be good if they do an El Cheapo model in plain plastic, I don't care what things look like in the engine bay.
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Could also try a throttle body shaft grind along with the airbox.
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Looks amazing and I am sure there will be good gains, but no reason this needs to cost near 5K even in carbon. CF is not really that expensive, and once you have the plug and molds made, knock them out is easy and cheap as any other composite. The lower airbox looks 3d printed and could be done for cheap that way. Creating an injection mold for it would be big tooling costs, but lots of materials in the 3D printing world would hold up just fine. With all the spare manufacturing capacity out there, these could be done and profitable for under 3K, which is what I think the right price for them would be.


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