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Left hip bolster, driver side

Old Apr 14, 2015 | 01:09 AM
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Left hip bolster, driver side

Looks like today is when I list all the ways I'm screwing up this car. The drivers left seat bolster is already looking folded/wrinkled. I attached a pic, but it's night time and really hard to see, I'll post another with better light. But it seems to be from ingress and egress especially when it's too tight to open the door fully. Sometimes I feel myself putting weight on the very top of the bolster, and feel it give a little, but just noticed this today. If it's like this after 4 months, how bad is this gonna get in a few years? Anyone else have this problem?
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 03:00 PM
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I don't think this is that bad. You can barely tell.

You could consider the 'butt drop' seating technique.... easier on the side bolsters than sliding in. Getting out not much you can do really.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by HKJay
Looks like today is when I list all the ways I'm screwing up this car. The drivers left seat bolster is already looking folded/wrinkled. I attached a pic, but it's night time and really hard to see, I'll post another with better light. But it seems to be from ingress and egress especially when it's too tight to open the door fully. Sometimes I feel myself putting weight on the very top of the bolster, and feel it give a little, but just noticed this today. If it's like this after 4 months, how bad is this gonna get in a few years? Anyone else have this problem?
Thats not too bad, i'd worry more about the side bolster on the top of the seat. I am careful to go around it and drop in the middle of the seat. I had the bolster on the top of the seat repaired about a month ago after I picked up my 2011. It was worn pretty good. Its really amazing to me with all this German engineering, that they have an option to move the steering wheel, but moving the seat back when you turn the car off is too difficult. Both of my Corvettes had that feature. I think my wife's Lexus has it too. I know the BMW's don't have it, at least not the M3.
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Old Apr 14, 2015 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by robl45
Thats not too bad, i'd worry more about the side bolster on the top of the seat. I am careful to go around it and drop in the middle of the seat. I had the bolster on the top of the seat repaired about a month ago after I picked up my 2011. It was worn pretty good.
+1 -- that side bolster will tear before the bottom, had to get that repaired on a prior E-class. Car was maybe 5 or 6 years old. I'm pretty sure keeping up on the leather treatment would have helped to though, too -- especially for those of us living in the colder climates.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 06:21 PM
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Try this technique:

1) Set your seat to your preferred driving position. Commit this position to memory (spot 1, 2, or 3).

2) When exiting the car, slide the seat all the way back (the furthest it will go). Commit this position to memory. When exiting the car, rotate your legs to the left (your feet should be hovering over the ground). Lift your legs above the bolster as you're doing this (the extent to which you can do this will depend on your core strength).

Brace your right hand on the steering wheel and push/lift yourself up as you're lifting your left leg up over the bolster and putting your left foot on the ground.

3) When entering the car next, your seat will still be in the "back" position. This will allow you to turn and back into the car (butt-first). You can use your legs to lift your butt over the bolster (and you're now clearing the shortest portion of the bolster with the seat back). Sit down and rotate your legs into the car.

4) Use the memory button to put your seat back into the driving position.

Voila! You will now be making either 1) no contact or 2) very minimal contact with the thigh bolster on entry/exit.

I know the above sounds/seems absolutely ridiculous when you see it typed out like that but it is a surefire way to avoid the dreaded bolster wear.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zibby43
I know the above sounds/seems absolutely ridiculous when you see it typed out like that but it is a surefire way to avoid the dreaded bolster wear.
Yes, it does. :-) But I like the end goal. I'll pay more attention when I'm getting in and out and see if I start doing this.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:38 PM
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Thanks man!

Originally Posted by mb103
Yes, it does. :-) But I like the end goal. I'll pay more attention when I'm getting in and out and see if I start doing this.
Haha. Good luck buddy. Hope it helps/works out.

The seats in my C63 are very heavily bolstered (I absolutely love them) and I have to use this method for entry/exit as well. At first, I'm pretty sure bystanders thought I was doing the robot getting when I was getting in/out of the car but now, it not only looks natural but it feels natural as well.

The best part is that the process has worked.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by HKJay
Looks like today is when I list all the ways I'm screwing up this car. The drivers left seat bolster is already looking folded/wrinkled. I attached a pic, but it's night time and really hard to see, I'll post another with better light. But it seems to be from ingress and egress especially when it's too tight to open the door fully. Sometimes I feel myself putting weight on the very top of the bolster, and feel it give a little, but just noticed this today. If it's like this after 4 months, how bad is this gonna get in a few years? Anyone else have this problem?
Not bad, but it will get worse
This is how it looks like after a year and three months: side bolster is worse than seat, time to try zibby43 patent technique....
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My lower bolster started wearing at 1,000 miles, before I even dropped it off in Europe during my European Delivery! I've tried to change my egress from the car (ingress I can do without hitting any bolster) so that I don't touch either bolster but it's tough. I find myself just laying down my jacket on the bottom sometimes before I get into the car so I won't wear the leather down even more! Keep in mind I have Mystic Red interior which is probably more noticeable than the black. I do have an original owner 63,000 mile CLK55 from 2001 with the same black nappa leather and it's definitely worn a little but after a certian point in time it just becomes shiny and that's about as bad as it got for me.
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 01:24 AM
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Old Apr 16, 2015 | 10:12 AM
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 08:45 AM
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As an alternative to Zibby43's patented solution, you can always try Tony's:


Bobby may not have appreciated it, but it's worked for me.
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 09:59 AM
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I tried zibby's method (patent pending) last night -- maybe I'm not doing it right, but you seriously need some strong core muscles to grab the steering wheel and lift yourself off over the bolster...
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by unagi1
I tried zibby's method (patent pending) last night -- maybe I'm not doing it right, but you seriously need some strong core muscles to grab the steering wheel and lift yourself off over the bolster...
It cost me 50 bucks to have my seat bolster repaired, how much does it cost to have a steering column repaired?
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 06:16 PM
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It cost me 50 bucks to have my seat bolster repaired, how much does it cost to have a steering column repaired?
Think about it though, your ab midsection will be shredded by midsummer
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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Think about it though, your ab midsection will be shredded by midsummer
Biceps too!

And your bolsters will be pristine!
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Old Apr 18, 2015 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BklynMarc
As an alternative to Zibby43's patented solution, you can always try Tony's:

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Bobby may not have appreciated it, but it's worked for me.
lol that was the perfect clip. Nice one.

Originally Posted by unagi1
I tried zibby's method (patent pending) last night -- maybe I'm not doing it right, but you seriously need some strong core muscles to grab the steering wheel and lift yourself off over the bolster...
I've stopped doing leg lifts bc this robot ingress/egress maneuver fulfills my daily core training.

I should have explained this aspect better initially but I more or less use my right hand on top of the steering wheel to balance myself/give myself a little push as I rotate my legs to the left and pull my left knee to my chest. I always make sure the car is off when I use the steering wheel as bracing point as having the car off entirely "locks up" the wheel.

As soon as I can lift the entirety of my left leg (including my left "cheek") over the bolster, I place my left foot on the ground and use that to pull myself out (together with my hand). The right leg just follows after that; it doesn't come anywhere close to the bolster.

Some of my buddies have really nice Recaro buckets in their track cars. I've seen them using the same method (they have to do it just to get out of those heavily bolstered seats) with a slight variation; they pull themselves up using the door handle on the headliner.

Maybe I'll make a YouTube video with me getting in/out. At the very least, you guys will have some hearty laughs.

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Old Apr 19, 2015 | 11:20 PM
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What's your left arm doing this whole time? Grabbing the A-pillar or the roof?

Ok, you use the steering wheel to brace your body and rotate left, now you are pushing off the steering wheel with one arm as opposed to the two arms I thought you were using?

I can barely do it with two arms...
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Old Apr 22, 2015 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by unagi1
What's your left arm doing this whole time? Grabbing the A-pillar or the roof?

Ok, you use the steering wheel to brace your body and rotate left, now you are pushing off the steering wheel with one arm as opposed to the two arms I thought you were using?

I can barely do it with two arms...
Haha yep just one! Left arm isn't doing anything really. But I'm not ridiculously strong or anything. I'm not really doing a lot of pushing with that right arm. I use it primarily to balance myself/push myself out of the car after I've used my core to lift my left leg up over the bolster.

And the hindquarter (did I just say hindquarter on MBWorld?) portion of my left leg just barely brushes the top part bolster as I'm getting out. Just having the seat all the way back when exiting helps a lot. And there's far less contact going on when exiting as opposed to entering.

Has moving the seat back and backing into the seat/swinging your legs in helped with the entering part?
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